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boykster:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on August 05, 2007, 10:33:22 pm ---Just for the record, about the trans-am... anyone who insults the sheer perfection of the third-gen f body surely has a special place in hell. Third gen cars were and still are impressive in their beauty and performance. The last great sports car. On top of that they don't have all these crazy "penis envy" add-ons that shoot the price up to unreasonable levels, making them practical as well.
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just don't actually drive it, because it will fall apart.
and to the numbnutts that called luxury cars "gay" :blah:
koolmoecraig:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on August 05, 2007, 10:33:22 pm ---Just for the record, about the trans-am... anyone who insults the sheer perfection of the third-gen f body surely has a special place in hell. Third gen cars were and still are impressive in their beauty and performance. The last great sports car. On top of that they don't have all these crazy "penis envy" add-ons that shoot the price up to unreasonable levels, making them practical as well.
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Are you kidding me? Those are some of the biggest rattle-trap pieces of crap ever. The chassis was flexible as hell. Hardly a platform to be used in the high horsepower models that showed up at the end. And to call it a sports car? ::) Puhhhlease. I'll give you "pony" car hell, I'll even give you muscle car but a sports car it was not. A sports car needs to have a real suspension that makes it handle. Those things counted completely on the grip of their wide-ass tires. It was a straight-line muscle car in the vein of the 70's. NOT a sports car.
When originally introduced the styling was fresh but as with most of those Mullet-Mobiles the styling updates consisted of slapping on layers upon layers of cheap plastic body cladding and spoilers. The Trans-Am Firebird GTA got the worst of it. Tacky and white-trashed as all hell. Only the Firebird Formula model stayed clean bodywise. They don't have "penis envy" add-ons? The entire car screams "I AM UNDER ENDOWED"!!!
Towards the end, the SLP Firehawk(less than 30 built I think) was pretty cool but as with all GM cars, when they finally get it right, nobody cares anymore cause the car's outdated and it gets pulled from production(Fiero, Allante anyone?).
Want an example of how weak those things are? A dear friend of mine was driving a 1988 Camaro RS with T-tops. She slid off the road at approx 30mph(according to police and a witness) and hit a tree dead-center sideways. The ENTIRE CAR BROKE IN HALF. She was killed instantly.
Rattle trap garbage and a perennial favorite of the trailer trash.
koolmoecraig:
Maybe that's a LITTLE harsh. Call them what they are though. They are poorly built American "pony" cars. Cars like this are what lead to the Japanese import scene completely taking over the youth Hot Rodding culture. Tacky relics from the past. Can they be fun? Of course, ANYTHING with a V8 and RWD is pretty much sure to be some sort of fun.
They didn't even really get fast until the later years. I had an '86 Shelby Turbo Dodge Omni(GLH-S) back in 1990 and I could smoke those bloated F-Bodies all day long.
In 1986 a Shelby Omni had a 2.2(135cid) 4cyl turbo putting out 175hp. GM's 5.0(305cid) put out 190hp in a car that weighed about 1000 pound more(!).
Nothing was more pleasurable than smoking a "sports car" in a 4-Door "grocery getter".
Good times.
Havok:
You wouldn't be smoking me. Just a few weeks ago I surprised the hell out out of a ricer Lancer Evo "turbo" - whoop de freakin do... That turbo didn't help him any. He did try though... And with a few body\suspension modifications, my TA is tight - no rattles, and corners better than a Vette. With a couple of mods, my TA is a sports car - you must have went up against the guys who had a engine problems, or maybe weren't even racing you?
patrickl:
A Mitsubishi lancer Evo has a 0-60 time of between 4 and 5 seconds. A Trans Am does 0-60 in over 7 seconds? You either have a seriously upgraded Trans Am, or the Evo wasn't an Evo (or the Evo wasn't trying)
I had an Audi TT. Not really a fast car by todays standards, but even in that I never had any problems with the muscle cars I came up against.
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