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tommy:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on July 23, 2007, 11:20:50 am ---
Us choosing not to pay to watch him play, or buy his products, is ruining his life?  Companies responding to our desire to no longer associate with him, and thus no longer giving him millions simply for use of his name, is ruining his life?

Or are the consequences of his own actions ruining his life?

The feds have a 95% conviction rate.  This guy is guilty as can be and dumber than that.


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Yes it is ruining his life because he would have all that stuff in good name without these accusations.

The consequences are fine if he did it, but this far it is nothing but talk. I remember a hard and fast rule we normally go by around these parts... innocent until proven guilty, or something like that.  ::)   Remember?

He may as well be guilty with you people as he has no chance in any of our minds.

 I'm not for what he stands for or what he probably has done, I'm for the process of finding out the truth and until then we cannot assume things based on the media.

shardian:
BTW, the state of Virginia also is going to be releasing their indictments too.

Jouster:
As was stated earlier, "innocent until prooven guilty" is only in a court of law...that has nothing to do with the market, or public perception.  It has been reported that the Feds have video from an undercover officer that shows Vick hosting the event.  Even if he isn't guilty of actually putting a dog into the ring...if the video is real, he is definitely involved.

If it turns out that it is all a lie, and he honestly had no clue about any of it, he'd be able to get endorsements again...assuming he puts up decent numbers on the field.

Jouster

ChadTower:

--- Quote from: tommy on July 23, 2007, 11:27:46 am ---The consequences are fine if he did it, but this far it is nothing but talk.
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A federal indictment is a hell of a lot more than talk.  That is having one foot in prison already.  Billionaire CEOs can't buy their way out from this spot.  Vick is toast.



--- Quote ---I remember a hard and fast rule we normally go by around these parts... innocent until proven guilty, or something like that.  ::)   Remember?
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That applies to being imprisoned by the gov't, which will not happen, until after he is convicted.  That has nothing to do with his value in the business world, which includes the NFL as well as any sponsorships he may have had. 



--- Quote ---He may as well be guilty with you people as he has no chance in any of our minds.
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95% conviction rate.  The feds don't waste time with people they cannot convict.  If they did, Barry Bonds would be in prison right now.



--- Quote --- I'm not for what he stands for or what he probably has done, I'm for the process of finding out the truth and until then we cannot assume things based on the media.

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It's not based on the media.  It is based on the text of a federal indictment.  Lots of people were still behind him until that indictment hit the public... now most of even people in Atlanta are like WTF get this guy out of here kthx.

Due process applies to imprisonment and thus far he has not been imprisoned.  Everything else is free market consequence.

shardian:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on July 23, 2007, 11:35:31 am ---95% conviction rate.  The feds don't waste time with people they cannot convict.  If they did, Barry Bonds would be in prison right now.


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No doubt on that one. They won't throw out the indictment flag until they are DAMN sure they have untouchable evidence.

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