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So who is going to be watching the Giants games for the next week?

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CCM:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on July 24, 2007, 09:10:27 am ---
I remember watching that game.  His arm sure looked like it snapped.  The elbow came halfway back the wrong way.

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from wikipedia:

Nolan Ryan's very durable arm finally gave out in Seattle on September 22, 1993, when he tore a ligament, ending his career two starts earlier than planned. Briefly attempting to pitch past the injury, Ryan threw one further pitch after tearing his ligament; with his injured arm, his final pitch was measured at 98 miles per hour.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nolan_Ryan

JackTucky:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on July 24, 2007, 09:26:53 am ---I played baseball for nearly 15 years and have coached it another ten.  I know what a pitcher's elbow looks like during delivery.

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Chad is superman, really.

=J

Guaranos:

--- Quote from: shardian on July 24, 2007, 08:14:02 am ---Did Jose accuse Clemens in his book?

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Jose said Clemens was the only guy he knew who never cheated on his wife.  He also said that he never saw Clemens use steroids, and once had him deny it to him personally, but often discussed with him what it could do for a pitcher.  He often heard him make references to B12 shots which was a common code word for steroids.

Guaranos:

--- Quote from: shardian on July 24, 2007, 08:39:46 am ---
--- Quote from: ChadTower on July 24, 2007, 08:26:43 am ---
Clemens' problem wasn't form, it was a dead shoulder.  He spent the most of is last two seasons in Boston on the DL.  Pitchers don't regain their fastball in their mid 30s, just like running backs (with mileage) don't get better at 30.

Ryan was a freak and threw until his arm literally snapped on the mound.  That was ugly.

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Sorry, you got the wrong person there. Dave Dravecky was the unfortunate soul who had the gruesome arm snap incident.

Ryan did tear a ligament in his final appearance, but the freak threw one more pitch before calling it quits....a 98 mph pitch....at ~46 years old. ;D

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Tony Saunders also had his arm snap while pitching - twice.  In his book, Canseco said that Saunders was a heavy steroid user, and was especially bulky when the first snap happened.  I've heard something about steroids affecting your bone density (not sure how true that is), so that might make sense.  Dravecky was a completely different situation, as his arm was riddled with cancer.

ChadTower:

Steroids don't usualy directly affect bone density, but they do affect the balance between muscle strength and tensile strength of everything else.  The muscles become disproportionately strong and the parts attached to them start to fail.  Ligaments rip, cartilage tears, etc.  In rare cases a bone can break.

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