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So who is going to be watching the Giants games for the next week?

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shardian:
Did Jose accuse Clemens in his book?

Oh and BTW, a pitcher can regain form. Rest, a change in training, etc. can work wonders for a pitcher. FYI, Nolan Ryan could still hurl the heat into his 40's and of course he wasn't a juicer.

ChadTower:

Clemens' problem wasn't form, it was a dead shoulder.  He spent the most of is last two seasons in Boston on the DL.  Pitchers don't regain their fastball in their mid 30s, just like running backs (with mileage) don't get better at 30.

Ryan was a freak and threw until his arm literally snapped on the mound.  That was ugly.

shardian:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on July 24, 2007, 08:26:43 am ---
Clemens' problem wasn't form, it was a dead shoulder.  He spent the most of is last two seasons in Boston on the DL.  Pitchers don't regain their fastball in their mid 30s, just like running backs (with mileage) don't get better at 30.

Ryan was a freak and threw until his arm literally snapped on the mound.  That was ugly.

--- End quote ---

Sorry, you got the wrong person there. Dave Dravecky was the unfortunate soul who had the gruesome arm snap incident.

Ryan did tear a ligament in his final appearance, but the freak threw one more pitch before calling it quits....a 98 mph pitch....at ~46 years old. ;D

ChadTower:

I remember watching that game.  His arm sure looked like it snapped.  The elbow came halfway back the wrong way.

shardian:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on July 24, 2007, 09:10:27 am ---
I remember watching that game.  His arm sure looked like it snapped.  The elbow came halfway back the wrong way.

--- End quote ---

Do you mean the actual elbow looked like it was flopping around during the pitching motion? If so, that is what a pitchers elbow looks like in slow mo during delivery. One time, the analysts were going over Andy Pettittes delivery, and when his forearm started forward, his elbow looked ridiculously broken. It was frikkin gross and unnatural looking.

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