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So who is going to be watching the Giants games for the next week?
jbox:
--- Quote from: btp2k2 on July 23, 2007, 01:28:07 am ---Boo to juicers!
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Really? I thought everyone was a fan of "Will It Blend"? ;D
Zero_Hour:
--- Quote from: btp2k2 on July 23, 2007, 01:28:07 am ---Boo to juicers!
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Hooray Beer!
Guaranos:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on July 23, 2007, 08:18:57 am ---
And yet the only difference between Bonds and Clemens is that no one dares say "steroids" and "Clemens" in the same sentence for some reason. Can't figure that one out.
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I'm with you there. I think Clemens is at least as much of a cheater as Bonds.
ChadTower:
I look at it this way. When Clemens was in his final two years with Boston, I lived within walking distance of Fenway (at Northeastern). I caught a couple games a week (scalpers will dump them for pennies in the second inning) and nearly all of Clemens' starts that last season. He was done. Shoulder dead, hell I saw him hit three guys in one inning because he had no control at all. Duquette recognizes this and cuts him loose rather than give him a huge new contract. He goes to Toronto with his minced ham right shoulder and somehow wins two Cy Youngs and is back to his 24 year old 1986 self for the next several years.
Do the math. That guy has at least as many needle marks between his toes as Bonds. Probably more.
Guaranos:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on July 23, 2007, 09:20:03 pm ---
I look at it this way. When Clemens was in his final two years with Boston, I lived within walking distance of Fenway (at Northeastern). I caught a couple games a week (scalpers will dump them for pennies in the second inning) and nearly all of Clemens' starts that last season. He was done. Shoulder dead, hell I saw him hit three guys in one inning because he had no control at all. Duquette recognizes this and cuts him loose rather than give him a huge new contract. He goes to Toronto with his minced ham right shoulder and somehow wins two Cy Youngs and is back to his 24 year old 1986 self for the next several years.
Do the math. That guy has at least as many needle marks between his toes as Bonds. Probably more.
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And who was on his team the year before his magical revival? Jose Canseco. The same Jose Canseco who played with McGwire, Giambi, Palmeiro, Juan Gonzalez, Tejada, etc, etc.
If you look at the teams Canseco joined, you'll see some interesting trends. He seems to bring out the best in a lot of players, and not just the obvious ones like those mentioned above. Look at guys like Shawn Green, Mo Vaughn, Reggie Jefferson, etc. Either Jose was a heck of a mentor and could be the greatest hitting coach ever, or he had some great connections.
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