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So who is going to be watching the Giants games for the next week?
Zero_Hour:
The only sacred achievement in Baseball is The Dock Ellis LSD No-Hitter.
ChadTower:
I hadn't heard about that... that's awesome.
billf:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on July 20, 2007, 07:28:46 pm ---
I hadn't heard about that... that's awesome.
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I hadn't heard about that either, but I just read about it at snopes (http://www.snopes.com/sports/baseball/ellis.asp). If you take him at his word, I would call it impressive, certainly not awesome - nothing really "awesome" about a pro athlete taking hallucinogenic drug.
Guaranos:
I'm a big baseball fan, but I won't be watching any Giants games until Bonds retires. There's some other guys in the league that I try to avoid watching too (Giambi, Sosa, Matthews, etc).
While steroids weren't technically against the rules when a lot of these guys started using, they were against the law. And beyond that, it's a matter of respect for the game - something that Bonds lacks. Bonds admitted in court to "unknowingly" using steroids. Bonds has consequently been called out as a cheater by the fans, like McGwire was called out by the baseball writers who didn't vote him into the hall of fame this year. If Bonds was not so self-centered, and had a shred of honor and dignity, he'd be able to see the difference between what he is doing and what Aaron did, and the damage he's causing to the game, and act accordingly.
If some good comes out of all this, I hope that it at least leads to some greater scrutiny of traditional HoF thresholds like 500 HR, 3000 hits, etc, and causes people to re-evaluate the careers of people like Dale Murphy, Jim Rice, etc.
ChadTower:
The HR threshhold was always 400HR, not 500. It used to be either 400HR or 3000 hits were automatic entry, which is why guys like Yastrzemski were such a big deal, having done both. IIRC it's only like 7-8 guys with both 400 and 3000. 500/3000 is only 4 guys, IIRC, and sadly one of them is Palmeiro.
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