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leapinlew:


--- Quote from: dcsipe on July 10, 2007, 07:02:47 pm ---
--- Quote from: Havok on July 10, 2007, 11:57:31 am ---If you want maximum flexibility and hardware compatibility, along with saving a serious amount of money - go pc.

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"Maximum hardware compatibility"????

Tell that to the users on Vista....



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Shoot... everytime Apple decides to "upgrade" their system line - everything before it becomes incompatible. We aren't running Vista just for this reason. A big part of the reason we don't run Apple machines is for the same reason. Apple has been doing it longer. I believe their machines have the appearance of running better because Apple refuses to deal with backward compatability.

psychotech:


--- Quote ---Shoot... everytime Apple decides to "upgrade" their system line - everything before it becomes incompatible. We aren't running Vista just for this reason. A big part of the reason we don't run Apple machines is for the same reason. Apple has been doing it longer. I believe their machines have the appearance of running better because Apple refuses to deal with backward compatability.

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Amen to that.  :applaud:

Apple arcade, why? And why would you actually "need" even Vista for an arcade cabinet? Because ..?

Guaranos:


--- Quote from: AtomSmasher on July 10, 2007, 07:31:42 pm ---While I agree that was the case with windows 98 and earlier, I don't find it to be the case with windows xp, at least not if your using ntfs (FAT32 file system is largely where the problem lies).  Yes, after a few years it does boot up and shut down quite a bit slower because it can have a lot of extra/unneeded processes to start/shutdown, but once its running its just as fast as the new install.  And if you know what your doing, you can clean up the startup config and speed that up as well.

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Oh yeah, it was definitely a lot worse with FAT32 (and infinitely worse with FAT16). 

You also touched on another reason why I switched to the Mac.  You said, "And if you know what your doing, you can clean up the startup config and speed that up as well."  I know what I'm doing, but you know what?  I'm sick of doing it.  Cliche as it is, I want a system that just works. 

I spend all day working with Windows machines, and the last thing I want to do when I get home is work on one.  It's kind of like how people that work at McDonald's don't want to eat at McDonald's. 

I like computers and technology, or I wouldn't be working in it, but I don't want a home system administration kit.  When I use the computer at home, I want to program fun little apps (like games and such), browse the web, edit videos, draw things in Photoshop, listen to music, and basically just goof around.  I don't want to tweak my registry settings,  figure out why that new driver doesn't work, etc.  Some people like that stuff.  I did at one point, but not anymore. 

I take the same approach with my arcade cabinets.  I want them to just work once I've finished building them.  I set them up the way I want them the first time, and don't mess with the configs ever again.  Some people love tweaking their front-ends, upgrading the MAME versions, and all that.  Both approaches are equally valid.

AtomSmasher:


--- Quote from: Guaranos on July 10, 2007, 08:33:58 pm ---
--- Quote from: AtomSmasher on July 10, 2007, 07:31:42 pm ---While I agree that was the case with windows 98 and earlier, I don't find it to be the case with windows xp, at least not if your using ntfs (FAT32 file system is largely where the problem lies).  Yes, after a few years it does boot up and shut down quite a bit slower because it can have a lot of extra/unneeded processes to start/shutdown, but once its running its just as fast as the new install.  And if you know what your doing, you can clean up the startup config and speed that up as well.

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Oh yeah, it was definitely a lot worse with FAT32 (and infinitely worse with FAT16). 

You also touched on another reason why I switched to the Mac.  You said, "And if you know what your doing, you can clean up the startup config and speed that up as well."  I know what I'm doing, but you know what?  I'm sick of doing it.  Cliche as it is, I want a system that just works. 

I spend all day working with Windows machines, and the last thing I want to do when I get home is work on one.  It's kind of like how people that work at McDonald's don't want to eat at McDonald's. 

I like computers and technology, or I wouldn't be working in it, but I don't want a home system administration kit.  When I use the computer at home, I want to program fun little apps (like games and such), browse the web, edit videos, draw things in Photoshop, listen to music, and basically just goof around.  I don't want to tweak my registry settings,  figure out why that new driver doesn't work, etc.  Some people like that stuff.  I did at one point, but not anymore. 

I take the same approach with my arcade cabinets.  I want them to just work once I've finished building them.  I set them up the way I want them the first time, and don't mess with the configs ever again.  Some people love tweaking their front-ends, upgrading the MAME versions, and all that.  Both approaches are equally valid.

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Well, as I said, you only really need to tweak it if you want to improve the speedup or shutdown times.  I currently have 2 regularly used XP machines, one of which was installed over 4 years ago and the other over 2 years ago.  I never really tweaked anything on them since I installed the OS's, I just let windows update do its thing, and I run disk defrag every couple of months.  Both of them still run great, but they take almost 2 minutes to fully boot up and start all of their processes, which doesn't bother me.

I also used to tweak everything and overclock everything I could, but now I've just lost interest in doing that kind of stuff.

cowguy:

If your getting a new computer as your main computer then get a mac.  They're amazing.  They run faster then windows and can do everything else a windows computer can do and more.  A mac is like a work of art , depending on what type you get the lcd in the mac mini's macbook and macbook pro's look fantastic.  But one con is there kinda expensive. <3ILOVEMYMACBOOKPRO<3 If your looking to save some money and just for arcade games to stick in a cab then you could pick up a cheap pc.

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