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Fozzy The Bear:

--- Quote from: TheAdMan on June 09, 2007, 03:25:24 pm ---sometimes you find solutions by using old technology in new ways rather that relying on new technology to save you. 

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And frequently by failing to learn and understand how the technology works you can run yourself up a totally blind alley and think that you have a solution when it simply isn't one.

That again won't work for several technical reasons. You yourself already stated that the image on an LCD screen isn't built up by line scanning.

In actual fact, to detect the position on an LCD screen in the way you suggest, you would have to flash each individual pixel in turn to white then back to black. Assuming a fast 8ms response time (and the response time is different for every LCD screen) and a native screen resolution of 1024 X 768 it would take approximately five seconds to do that for the whole screen, making it totally impractical.

Also the light output from that pixel flash would be so low that the room lighting would look brighter to the gun than the screen pixel flash does.

You're full of bright ideas that can't work.

While it's nice to see this sort of enthusiasm, please try to back it with some actual theoretical calculation first. Otherwise, you're just writing science fiction.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

TheAdMan:
Damn Fozzy, I'm just throwing ideas out there, I never said I'm some technical whiz - you don't have to be so hostile. I appreciate your technical knowlege but your attitude is repulsive.


 :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:ALL HAIL THE GREAT FOZZY, HIS SUPERIOR INTLECT SHAMES THE FUTILE COMMON MAN, PLEASE BLESS US WITH YOUR GREAT WISDOM!!! :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:


is your ego fed now?
 :troll:

aljupy:
Hi:

I will be very Happy if I can see other models of LCD Lightguns in the Market.

@TheAdman: To start well you should listen Fozzy, he is quite right, The WebCam on Top of monitor is not the Best way to play lightgun games with accuracy.

If Sega (From House Dead 1 until now) and Namco (on the last Time Crisis 4) Uses the Led Strip on the Screen IS NOT FOR NOTHING


I have the "RGT G1" lightgun from erealgames....this company was supposed to make the "FireHawk" for PC, but I believe that they didnīt finish that because It was the same than RGTG1 (for console)....I mean that the RGTG1 is quite Bad. Bad Accuracy, and lightgun players are limited to the frequency of IR emitters. Also, as you say....Leds on the LightGun are not "Sexy"  ;D ;D ;D

Of course, LCD TOP GUN is not 200% Perfect when you buy it, but it is perfect if you:

1) -Add a Brighter Leds to play Longer Distances

2)-Add a Wide Angle lens to play Shorter distances (like 1,5 meters for a 20" monitor)

3)-With a good driver that lets you support "Infinite" players with multiple profiles. A built-in Mouse Driver on the same LightGun does the trick, but anyway, it is always Welcome some sort of application to support multiple profiles or multiple calibrations for different games.

aljupy:
Downside of putting a Cam on top Monitor:

1)-Leds on the LightGun makes it horrible  :P

2)-Accuracy is worse than multiple leds on the monitor. I do not believe in magic with cheap prices 

3)-Multiple players = Multiple Ir frequencies (limited players). Ok, you can solve it with a Switch, but I think that is better that every LightGun is the player that you wish. Without any switch. What about 3 player games??
Also, it is easier for dumb users like me that if something happens to Ir Leds, just change the Leds for another normal Ir Leds And Go. I think I couldn´t change my "Top Gun"´s led if they would use other frequency instead of just IR light. Easy to Change :)

4)-To change some IR Led you will have to open your lightgun, instead of changing the Cheap led bar.  I mean if you need Brighter Leds or some Led is broke.

I repeat Myself: Led Strips on monitor are not Super-Perfect but I think that is the best technology for LightGuns (Namco, Sega, and Wii prove it)

See you!!!

Fozzy The Bear:

--- Quote from: TheAdMan on June 09, 2007, 09:45:51 pm ---is your ego fed now?
 :troll:

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You come in here, behave like a complete tit head with your first post being a poll to persuade people they want a product that will never work and never be produced, fail to even introduce yourself properly, fail to bother to find out who people are and what they do for a living and why listening to what they say to you is a good idea, insult senior members of the forum, enthusiastically come out with technically impossible garbage and then wonder why I tell you to back your suggestions up with some reality and practical reality at that....

All this, you manage to do in the space of 29 posts.

Well Done!!  Welcome to the forum.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

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