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ahofle:

--- Quote from: rovingmind on June 07, 2007, 03:55:24 pm ---has anybody tried these?

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Wow, that looks exactly like what TheAdMan described. 

EDIT: Nevermind, it's useless for me: "Note: G1 does not support multiple players. It is not currently compatible with PC games."

rovingmind:
yeah saw that also   :badmood:

TheAdMan:
Ahh you found www.erealgames.com, I was highly anticipating the release of their firehawk pc gun - which would have utilized a camera just like the G1, it was supposed t be released this spring, but they hit a snag somewhere and postponed it indefineitly, they even removed the advertisement from their website, it was after I received this news I contacted NaturalPoint - who has better camera technology.

ark_ader:
So tell me again whats wrong with the LCD TopGun?

I have two and they work for me, except I have issues with horizontal mounting of the LED bars, but other than that it works ace with the Xbox and HOTD.

Fozzy The Bear:

--- Quote from: TheAdMan on June 07, 2007, 04:57:18 pm ---it was supposed t be released this spring, but they hit a snag somewhere and postponed it indefineitly

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The Firehawk was cancelled because it hit the same brick walls as every other system that has tried this.  It simply doesn't work. It's only partially possible to track an object with this single point camera system.

If you move from your reference position or change your distance from the camera, the system falls over. The same applies to the Naturalpoint system, even with their most expensive systems they would not be able to track without reference markers.

They themselves point out that right now they need ground reference plane markers in order for their current single point camera systems to track anything.

The resolution necessary in the camera and electronics, in order to track to the degree of accuracy needed for even a 4 pixel resolution on screen at 5 feet away is mind bogglingly huge. It's pointless throwing the actual maths for this at you.

Your lack of understanding of the technology is your downfall here.  This simply will not work. Which is precisely why Sega, Namco, Sony, Nintendo, ALL abandoned development testing of this type of system for real arcades as well as for consoles. Why Honda also abandoned development of single point tracking for robotic systems. If they can't make it work with the size of budget they can throw at things, then Naturalpoint have not got a cat in hells chance of building a product like this, for a limited market and bringing it in on budget so that the limited market can afford it, or think it's worth the money.

Whether you like the fact or not, this is entirely a non starter. Quite apart from the fact that the LCD Topgun works fine.... works perfectly well at 5 feet from a 21" screen, and will shortly be working well at 2 feet from the same size screen due to further developments in the pipeline.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

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