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Playstation 1.... An audiophiles dream????
ChadTower:
Yeah, we upgraded to that from a $125-150 MSRP JVC AVR that came with the speakers in a store offer bundle (not HTIAB). The step up from the JVC to that HK was startling and my wife actually blew a couple of the speakers one day when a power fluctuation hit while she had Miss Saigon at about 70dB.
I think the biggest difference for me, functionally, was the component video switching that this one has that the JVC did not. That's the sort of thing that to me is worth more to upgrade for than the quality of sound when you factor in the size of the room in which the AVR sits.
I have a mid1960s GE receiver that puts both of them to absolute shame. Obviously no remote or anything like that but this thing could break windows in another room if I wanted and still not distort.
shardian:
From what I understand of TRUE audiophiles, they don't buy new products - they restore original equipment from the hi-fi days of 20-30 or so years ago. My father-in-law is a budding audiophile. He cruises goodwills to find stereo equipment. One time, he picked up a set of speakers from goodwill that he says are considered one of the best speakers ever built (no clue what the brand or model is right offhand). Anyways, he sent them off to an audiophile repair guy to have them "re-foamed".
The quality put into high end Hi-Fi components back then put to shame almost all off the shelf components of today. I used one of Onkyo Amps at my wedding reception, matched with a pair of older speakers holding 15" woofers. That setup filled the whole reception hall with crystal clear sound that was awesome. Going by the current day systems I am used to, I figured that the amp must have been pushing at least 100 watts to each speaker. I was shocked when he said it was a measly 35 watts/channel! :o For my birthday, he got me a 120 watt Sony amp from the early 80's I believe. I can't wait to build my jukebox so I can insert it as the driving force. ;D
ChadTower:
Yeah, if I could get my old GE to do 5.1, I'd be using that most of the time instead of the HK. Even with old paper cones it sounds really really good.
boykster:
I totally agree that there are zealots who have more money than sense and fully subscribe to the "if it costs more it MUST be better" philosophy...that's why Monster Cable exists, and monster cable makes CHEAP cables in the whole scheme of things. You can buy high end speaker cables that are more than $100 a FOOT!!! Of course, if you buy a $100,000 pre/pro seperates system you can't just use cheap zip cord, can you (yes, of course you can)?
It is all relative. In my theater I have a $2000 projector that is very nice. Are there nice projectors that cost double, triple, quadruple, etc more? Yes...are they x times "better" than mine? Not to me at the time I bought my projector, but to somebody else, maybe so. Same thing with my AVR, at the time, a $3k Denon to me was "better" than anything else that I demo'd, and that included less expensive models. I actually DIDN'T want to spend $3k on the AVR...i was shooting for under $1500 but couldn't find one that I really liked sonically. I was able to demo these units in my theater (not just at the showroom), so I wasn't just upsold by them switching to better speakers, etc. I demo'd in my theater with my equipment. The more expensive model just sounded better to me. Then along came the little panasonic $300 entry level AVR that blew away my Denon costing 10x as much. Did I turn up my nose? Nope, I bought one, demo'd it, even set it up for blind tests, and chose it.
I took a bath and sold my $3k Denon for about $2k on AVS, so I didn't do it to "save" money....
I compare any large purchase to buying a car. Is someone who buys a Porsche or Ferrari wrong for buying a high performance car that can go 200mph when we live in a society where the max speed is capped at somewhere near 1/3 of that speed? Is anyone that spends more than $15k on a car an idiot? Nope.......personal choice and priorities.
:dunno
ChadTower:
Which Panny is that? Just curious.
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