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pointdablame:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on June 06, 2007, 09:00:39 am ---
I fully believe that a $10,000 setup can sound better than a $1,000 setup.  No problem with that.

I also fully believe that outside of a professional setting there is never any reason to spend $10,000 on an audio setup.  The $10,000 setup cannot possibly be $9,000 better in home use.  If one is going to drop $10,000, rebuild the room instead, it will probably be more effective.

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It all depends on your financial standing if you ask me.  I can't exactly quantify "$9000 better" but I've heard audio setups that put mine to shame, and certainly made me want it very badly.  In my current situation, I deal with what I have because a $10k stereo would be absurd and stupid, but if I were wealthy enough, sure... I'd drop that amount in a heartbeat.  And this was a home theater setup, not a professional setup.

Again, its a hard thing to say something is "10x better" when it comes to audio.  I absolutely believe that there is a point at which speakers and audio components becomes simply a way to prove how rich you are (go look at Wilson Audio speakers).  I've heard they sounds very good, but some of them are $200k, and that's far from the most expensive speakers you can buy... that's ludicrous.

Anyway, it's just one of those things that some people will never "get" and some people understand... but don't necessarily spend the money on.  I just hate when people make stupid blanket statements about how no audio equipment is ever worth more than $1k.

ChadTower:

I can safely say that no audio equipment is never worth more than $1000.  Worth is a relative concept.  I will never see an AVR for which I would pay $1000.  It would be a true statement for me.  For you, a false statement, for sure.

For $10,000 it had better come with a room full of hot chicks to dance to the music.  Chicks that stay hot.

pointdablame:
Of course worth is relative, and as you said, for you it's a true statement.  I have no expensive equipment right now, and for me right now I could never justify $1k on a component.  Hopefully in a few years, but for now it's just as absurd for me as it is for you, although for different reasons

You also have to consider your setup.  Howard mentioned grabbing an amp, EQ, and speakers, and it'd be "well under 1000 bucks"  I'd say that that is difficult if you are going for any amount of quality.

If you are buying a HTIB for a small room, you can do so for well under $1k.  If you are creating even a simple 2.1 component system with a receiver and speakers, $1k can happen fairly quickly.  If you are buying dedicated amps, preamps, and EQs, as well as speakers... $1k doesn't usually even get your foot in the door.  Add in the fact that most modern setups are 5.1 and you increase that even more.

I'm not trying to convince anyone that a stereo is only good if you spend crazy money on it.  I believe quite the opposite actually.  I'm just trying to say that like most things in life, there are varying levels of quality in components and varying levels of prices.  To say anything above $xxx is never worth it is stupid IMHO, and usually said by people who have little to no experience with those higher-end pieces.

ChadTower:

For reference purposes, my AVR had something like a $700 MSRP but I bought it refurbed off the manufacturer for about a third of that. 

Can't remember the exact model #, I think it's this one, could be another in the 2xx series.  The 5.1 arrangement of speakers are all Cambridge Soundworks.

pointdablame:
Just for the record, I love good deals.  I wait for sales and refurbs as well so I can get more for my money.  It's usually the only way I can afford anything heh  :laugh2:

For the purpose of this discussion though, your receiver is still a $700 component.  Despite what you paid, you still have a mid-range audio component.  My only point here is that you should be able to hear a discernible difference in clarity from your AVR and a $100 Aiwa receiver from WalMart or the like.

And just for disclosure's sake - I only have about $500 in audio equipment in my bedroom (if that).  I run a Pioneer receiver that is probably 8+ years old now and a set of Bose cubes that I absolutely despise.  For my 12x12 bedroom though, it sounds decent enough for the few movies I watch or video games I play in the room.  Because I can't get the components I'd like, my music listening has turned to my headphone amp and headphones until I have a bigger place and more money to play with.  I can get much better clarity with my headphones for a much more reasonable price.

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