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polaris:

--- Quote from: shorthair on June 01, 2007, 05:04:45 pm ---Soon they'll have ways to impregnate information straight into your brain. You won't need to be able to read score, cos as with a musical tune you have in mind, where you can go to any point and play it however you want, whatever speed, etc...at least I can in cases...you'll know exactly how it reads and then be able to conduct that score in your mind at whatever tempo, etc, desired.

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not soon enough for me, what do you play then mate

shorthair:
No doubt. Only reason I passed my theory classes - and I had the advantage of the instructor liking me - was I internalised his system in application to hearing music...cos I still can't read.

Started off singing and playing electric guitar - metal. Studied music a few years later also taking chorale classes. Very little keyboard facility as, in both instruments, I've never played anyone else's stuff. (Well, an occasional ---smurfing--- off with a lick here or there of Priest, Maiden, Metallica, or Zepplin - but never learned the whole song. Mainly just created and played my own stuff.) Now, when warming up, I often play non-tonal improvisations. Most of my guitar (still a metal type of tone) is tertian but non-tonal.

polaris:

--- Quote from: shorthair on June 01, 2007, 06:43:42 pm --- I often play non-tonal improvisations. Most of my guitar (still a metal type of tone) is tertian but non-tonal.

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help me dude, me no understand this , ive only been learning a few years my theory is poor.

i can play by ear but would rather read and learn a piece as its quicker for me that way even though im slow at reading im slower at working it out, but in fairness ive only had about 30 lessons in three years so time will tell i hope. piano BTW. i love it. im auditioning for a ska band as a singer soon which i hope goes well. quite fancy getting a drum kit too.

shorthair:
Tertian refers to harmony - ie, chords arranged in thirds...of which the bulk of the western world is still most familiar with. Of course, there's not a lot of structural sophistication to popcul music, but a fair bit of it - mostly older - is enjoyable. This is where you get into the concept of key. (And whatever you've heard, whatever anyone here who might be reading this has heard, it is NOT all derived from C major - or, C...lower case is minor.)

I suggest you get a keyboard chart, the folks at any music store that sells sheet music will know, and a book of decent melodies, and learn them for each hand. Next, go here and see if you can't scare up his Intro to Theory book and workbook. That'll get you started.

You get proficient enough, and you'll know what a piece at least generally sounds like just by looking at the score. Arnold Schoenberg, like Bach, wrote at a table. He diverged from Bach in that he had little if any keyboard facility, and only some on violin.

polaris:
tertian, yes that makes sense, i should have worked that out.
sorry shorty im selling myself a bit short to be honest, im about grade 4/5 level at the moment, but i do eventually want to get my grade 8 so i can teach and do virtuoso study, but its a while off. i just wish i could pick up the reading speed, it takes me a while to plough through reading it til i can enjoy playing it .once i start being able to play it i never read it again which is a bit lazy of me.
cheers for that link , not seen it before.

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