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Heroes 2nd season (title updated - previously about season 1 finale)
odysseyroc:
The future episode doesn't have to be something that's never been done before to be good. The art direction, lighting photography and drama were a cut above anything you normally see on network television. It was everything that all of the X-Men movies failed to be.
Lost had the potential to be the best show ever, but I don't think it ever really found it's way. If they would have dropped all of the lame mystery stuff and made it a show of survival, with the Losties vs the Others I think it would have been way more interesting. Heroes proved that you can have mystery and give answers without killing the show. It was easy to guess a lot of the plot twists because they pretty much told you what was going to happen from the word go.
I've been watching the first few seasons of Alias again and that show has a lot in common with Lost. Both started out awesome but ended up losing their way by the third season. Both ended up crushed under the weight of their own mythologies and web of mysteries. The writing on both shows become increasingly unbelievable as time goes on too.
Each week on Lost, the losties get dumber and more gullible, especially Sawyer, the con artist who's been conned by every single person on the show. Also, the fact that every single thing that the Losties do all fits into Ben's master plan is weak "Oh, Jack just shot Ben in the face! Now Ben has him just where he wants him". It's as unbelievable as the CIA handing over control of one of it's divisions to Arvin Sloan after bringing down SD-6.
More Cowbell:
I didn't walk away from Heroes with that feeling of good resolution. All of that buildup over the season culminated in a 2-minute scene.
Chris G:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on May 22, 2007, 09:32:14 am ---I feel for people who actually thought lost would be a good show. It's common sense that it'd end up sucking because the core concept of the show is flawed. To put it bluntly, gilligan's island is not a valid plot for a serious drama in 2007.
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I haven't watched season 3 yet, so I don't know how the show ends up tail-spinning, but this is just a bizarre comment.
shardian:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on May 22, 2007, 09:32:14 am ---I dunno what everyone is complaining about... the heroes ending was perfect. I'm not sure what you guys expected, but this is NOT a action show and thus some big epic battle at the end was out of the question. The show is smallville on steroids basically.... They made a wise decision by actually closing the season 1 storyline and not doing some lame cliff-hanger.
On the other hand, Jericho's ending was the one that was crap. Hmm... let's see, after an entire season of none of the main characters dying (and remember this is post-apocalypse, so that's insainely un-realistic) the best ending they could come up with is to kill off a third-teir character that isn't crucial to the plot anyway. Oh and the whole army thing.... they didn't even bother to come up with something new, they just recycled the plot device from half-way through the season. Jericho had another season ahead of it, but that's about it.
Heros could go on indefinately though. The reason behind this is real simple. The good thing about a show with super heros in it is even if the writers take a nap for a few episodes, super-powers are bad-ass and thus it's still interesting to watch.
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Technically, Heroes IS supposed to be the show with all the action, and Jericho is meant to be more about the people and their struggle to survive than the action. And why is it unrealistic that people don't start dropping like fly's in a rural town? The two major death's in Jericho were very meaningful and very well done. The death scenes of April and Johnston were the best scenes of the whole show. I do agree that Jericho only had another season worth of writing in it. That is a bad thing why?? Not every show has to go on and on.
Oh and about the neatly wrapped up Heroes ending, apparently you missed the blood trail to the sewer.
The ending was rushed, poorly written, and very poorly executed. Next season, Heroes is going on my record list so I can watch it uninterrupted at the end of the season. Disappointment is soo much easier to handle when you don't wait a year for it.
shardian:
--- Quote from: Chris G on May 22, 2007, 12:31:24 pm ---I haven't watched season 3 yet, so I don't know how the show ends up tail-spinning, but this is just a bizarre comment.
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In a nutshell, the writers went apeshit with new mysteries and theories, so much to the point that they contradict each other. All the while, they have not answered even a SINGLE small mystery from the last two seasons. Hell, they haven't even addressed the aftermath of the Season 2 finale. They are more than happy to shove meaningless additional backstory of characters down your throat though. I wish they would do away with flashbacks unless they are absolutely necessary.
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