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jbox:
--- Quote from: bfauska on May 27, 2007, 11:03:59 pm ---And don't forget the influence that my need for money has on the dice either. Whether or not I can easily afford to loose the money I have on the pass line usually has a distinct effect on the outcome, if I shouldn't have bet in the first place I'm sure to loose.
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Too true, too true. :applaud:
--- Quote from: AtomSmasher on May 28, 2007, 01:09:16 am ---
--- Quote from: jbox on May 27, 2007, 10:27:37 pm ---
--- Quote from: AtomSmasher on May 27, 2007, 01:43:57 pm ---I can tell you the exact probability of what could come up in five rolls, you can't tell me the exact probability of what the weather will be in 5 days.
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Prove it. Don't forget to explain how rolling, reflection, cross-sectional drag and rotational momentum work since you have stated you can give me an exact probability. ;D
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Sure, theres a 1 in 36 probability that any particular combination will hit. Since the throw will always give a completely random variable to the equation which will effect all the other variables you mentioned, it becomes equally likely that any sides of the dice will come up.
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Huh, that's weird. That doesn't look like a physics "proof", but I guess we just have to take your word for it. :dunno
shorthair:
--- Quote from: bfauska on May 27, 2007, 11:03:59 pm ---And don't forget the influence that my need for money has on the dice either. Whether or not I can easily afford to loose the money I have on the pass line usually has a distinct effect on the outcome, if I shouldn't have bet in the first place I'm sure to loose.
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What?
AtomSmasher:
--- Quote from: jbox on May 28, 2007, 01:39:45 am ---Huh, that's weird. That doesn't look like a physics "proof", but I guess we just have to take your word for it. :dunno
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rofl. I'm sorry, but I have better things to do with my time then formulate scientific proof's to disprove a minor point in a thread I care little about. The only reason I gave a serious response in this thread is because of the glaring hole in your example. You should feel free to formulate a proof to support your theory that the climate is like craps and prove me wrong.
DrewKaree:
--- Quote from: shorthair on May 28, 2007, 01:54:41 am ---
--- Quote from: bfauska on May 27, 2007, 11:03:59 pm ---And don't forget the influence that my need for money has on the dice either. Whether or not I can easily afford to loose the money I have on the pass line usually has a distinct effect on the outcome, if I shouldn't have bet in the first place I'm sure to loose.
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What?
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The above exchange is darned near hysterical :laugh2: :laugh2:
jbox:
--- Quote from: AtomSmasher on May 28, 2007, 01:57:16 am ---
--- Quote from: jbox on May 28, 2007, 01:39:45 am ---Huh, that's weird. That doesn't look like a physics "proof", but I guess we just have to take your word for it. :dunno
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rofl. I'm sorry, but I have better things to do with my time then formulate scientific proof's to disprove a minor point in a thread I care little about. The only reason I gave a serious response in this thread is because of the glaring hole in your example. You should feel free to formulate a proof to support your theory that the climate is like craps and prove me wrong.
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Apparently not. :laugh2:
Since most people here haven't studied Brownian motion, special relativity, aerodynamics, plastics molding, and so on, my point remains that you have assigned those probabilities via observation, not proof. Thus, it is equally valid for me to make assertions regarding the probabilities of the weather using observations too. If you found that over time the 6-side of the die was starting to wear away and thus the resulting roles were changing, would you still cling to your personal belief that the odds of every combination was 1 in 36? Or would you instead wonder what would happen if we really did roll the dice five billion times? :dunno
Global Warming is one of those discussions where I don't particularly favour one "Church" over another (as Drew would say), but I do object to people poo-poo-ing the scientific method just because of the politics being used by various parties. I too get annoyed when people confuse actual discussion with some idiots that make tabloid movies about Bush being the Saudi Boogyman, or about a dude who wishes he was a rodeo cowboy or something (I don't know how it ends because none of us could stand to watch it all the way through). :blah:
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