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Ed_McCarron:
What kind of batteries are in the prius?
Batteries are one of the things that are better off recycled. Lithium, Lead, Nickel, Cadmium... All messy and better to recycle than to toss into the waste stream.
I made a concious effort to do domething green today. I told a fat guy to diet. I figure he'll consume less resources and add less to the waste stream.
DrewKaree:
--- Quote from: Ed_McCarron on May 20, 2007, 12:38:10 pm ---
What kind of batteries are in the prius?
Batteries are one of the things that are better off recycled. Lithium, Lead, Nickel, Cadmium... All messy and better to recycle than to toss into the waste stream.
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That's just crazy talk right there :dizzy:
Those batteries HAVE to be better on a tire fire or in a water treatment plant's holding pond, no?
patrickl:
--- Quote from: DrewKaree on May 20, 2007, 12:01:35 pm ---
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on May 19, 2007, 10:43:19 pm ---I do NOT buy hybrid cars because they are some made up b.s. by the auto/oil industry designed to distract you to the fact that sticking a redundant gas engine in an electric car negates any cost/energy benefit due to the extra wieght.
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Given the mileage they report, either there's a bigger lie being put forth than guys like Pat want to acknowledge, or you're wanting to argue that the electric part needs to be more efficient, rather than the gas part being too heavy so as to wreck all the hard work of the electric part.
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The reason for the electric motor is because only an electric motor can be used in the "regenerative braking" that the Prius uses. If used properly (ie you don't brake to late, forcing the mechanical brakes to kick in), it recovers up to two thirds of the braking energy. It is the most important way to save fuel in stop and go city traffic.
The gas engine is needed because I don't think they are able to produce a useful fully electrically powerded car yet. Either the car is too small or it doesn't have acceptable range.
DrewKaree:
--- Quote from: patrickl on May 20, 2007, 02:16:10 pm ---
The gas engine is needed because I don't think they are able to produce a useful fully electrically powerded car yet. Either the car is too small or it doesn't have acceptable range.
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That line is bunk. They're starting to import Smart cars here in 2008 (after adding more safety features, since they're not safe enough for our roads, evidently ::) ).
If THOSE cars are "big enough" that people view them as reasonable transportation, then your "the car is too small" line is complete and utter bunk. The smart cars claim mileage figures that are attainable for larger (e.g. less sardine-can-sized) vehicles, have negligible storage - to the point that they have to point out the cubic storage space when filled to the roof - and in general, have no compelling reason to choose them instead of a larger car.
That they will sell is not in doubt - they will not import a car that WON'T sell, so the size of the vehicle you're referring to has to be smaller than a Smart car, and Matchbox has a hard time making a smaller car than a Smrt
ChadTower:
I'm catching this a little late, but for once, pinballjim isn't so far off. I've found that with arcade guys, more so pinball guys, if they don't have kids they are going to be a pain in the ass to deal with. They're going to be very selfish, nickel and dime the crap out of you, waste your time intentionally to do it, flake off on deals with regularity... all things that someone with a family and demands on spare time can't afford. I've had very few arcade deals with guys that don't have kids go smoothly.
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