Soft-15KHz - slim new tool for 15KHz on normal vga cards

[damdai]

Nope, only single display. The only khz options i have in quickres are 60. im not sure what numbers my monitor is shoing in the OSD, but its something like 30 over 50. i can get the exact numbers later if u want them, but they were around there.

Yeah they all should show up with 60Hz (which is vertical refresh btw.), but you shouldn't be able to actually SEE anything on your VGA Monitor now.

Why not? My monitor is capable of displaying up to 800x600.

[SailorSat]

Hm... Actually the D9400 should sync to it, my fault.
What does the OSD tell you?

[northerngames]

I do all that stuff even without a Joystick 

 

[bent98]

One last question sailor since I dont have my new ati card to test. When you used that big usermodes.txt list. Did you have any specific resolution specified in the pacman.ini file or mame auto selected that right resolutions and refresh or does it use a default resolution in the pacman.ini file as a reference?

[damdai]

Hm... Actually the D9400 should sync to it, my fault.
What does the OSD tell you?

I'll check when I get home from work tonight. I also have an ATI Radeon X850 to try as well.

[SailorSat]

One last question sailor since I dont have my new ati card to test. When you used that big usermodes.txt list. Did you have any specific resolution specified in the pacman.ini file or mame auto selected that right resolutions and refresh or does it use a default resolution in the pacman.ini file as a reference?

I don't use any INIs at all. MAME selects resolutions itself.

[northerngames]

I have a radeon X1650 pro 512mb on the way and will post the results.

[damdai]

Hm... Actually the D9400 should sync to it, my fault.
What does the OSD tell you?

I'll check when I get home from work tonight. I also have an ATI Radeon X850 to try as well.

After installing soft 15k and rebooting, the screen is skewed with noticeable flicker, and the OSD says:
    FH 15.8 KHZ
    FV 50.2 HZ

[SailorSat]

Sure, 800x600

With your D9400 you should be able to install 15 + 25 + 31kHz.

[damdai]

Sure, 800x600

With your D9400 you should be able to install 15 + 25 + 31kHz.

I know. It doesn't seem to be working with my graphics card though. None of the resolutions are listed in quickres, and mame will choose to run games at 800x600. I'm trying an ATI card now.

[bent98]

Salior

I just got my x1950xt works great  right out of the box( I will need to add that to your compatablity thread)

I setup the usermodes.txt and pasted in the large list your put in the thread and ran mame -verbose.

I had gotten the same result as you however nearly all thoser usermode resoultions didnt not work with my monitor.

Screen when a little crazy and also made a high pitch noise. Strange because my bill labs quad sync monitor is capable of running many modes.

Also something else I ve played around with is adding those modelines you gave me for pacman two pages ago in this thread and I specified in the pacman.ini file 352x288@55 and it still selected the default one @51. Seems like if you have same resolution with different refresh rates mame will always pick the default ones in embedded in soft 15khz. What is that?

[damdai]

I'm able to add new resolutions with powerstrip, but not with soft15k.

[SailorSat]

Screen when a little crazy and also made a high pitch noise. Strange because my bill labs quad sync monitor is capable of running many modes.

Most likely the horizontal flyback on those modes it too high, as they are calculated for standard 15kHz (which is something like 20% of active pixel = sync) and with your Monitor simply has a faster flyback (like 10% of pixel = sync)
I'll attach the same list again with smaller sync width.

Also something else I ve played around with is adding those modelines you gave me for pacman two pages ago in this thread and I specified in the pacman.ini file 352x288@55 and it still selected the default one @51. Seems like if you have same resolution with different refresh rates mame will always pick the default ones in embedded in soft 15khz. What is that?

Try only to add the usermodes, NOT the base 15kHz ones (as they ALL will be added with 60Hz to the registry).
As for MAME, in your INI try setting "resolution0" not "resolution", MAME seems to have some... pretty nasty behaviour...

I'm able to add new resolutions with powerstrip, but not with soft15k.

Now that IS strange as both should be doing quite the same thing. With both NVidia AND ATI?
Can't help you at all right now, as I'm not sitting in front of it.

[bent98]

I tried pasting that updated text file, but when I ran soft 15 and intall usermodes it gives me a runtime error 13. It is like the problem I had with the decimal points that u fixed in build38

[bent98]

Seems I can add first 3 lines without runtime error after that i get error if I add more.

Also i tried pacman with the first 3 modelines added I it doesnt play nice with my monitor


And as far as mame .ini. It was using resolution0 and it still didnt grab the modeline in usermodes.txt

Infact here is verbose listing
DirectDraw: Using DirectDraw 7
DirectDraw: Configuring device Radeon X1950 Se
DirectDraw: Selecting video mode...
   240x 240@ 60Hz -> 62.279536
   256x 240@ 60Hz -> 62.276498
   256x 256@ 60Hz -> 62.279536
   256x 264@ 60Hz -> 62.281696
   288x 240@ 60Hz -> 62.273001
   296x 240@ 60Hz -> 62.272416
   304x 240@ 60Hz -> 62.271904
   321x 240@ 60Hz -> 62.271001
   321x 256@ 60Hz -> 62.271844
   336x 240@ 60Hz -> 62.270363
   352x 256@ 60Hz -> 62.270363
   352x 264@ 60Hz -> 62.270688
   352x 288@ 60Hz -> 2062.264152
   368x 240@ 60Hz -> 62.269333
   384x 288@ 60Hz -> 68.475332
   392x 240@ 60Hz -> 62.268760
   401x 256@ 60Hz -> 62.268914
   448x 240@ 60Hz -> 62.267815
   448x 384@ 60Hz -> 65.379417
   512x 240@ 60Hz -> 62.267119
   512x 288@ 60Hz -> 65.724360
   512x 384@ 60Hz -> 64.861554
   512x 448@ 60Hz -> 64.491323
   512x 512@ 60Hz -> 64.213470
   632x 264@ 60Hz -> 62.266461
   640x 240@ 60Hz -> 62.266302
   640x 288@ 60Hz -> 64.662233
   640x 480@ 60Hz -> 63.906188
   720x 480@ 60Hz -> 63.715531
   800x 600@ 60Hz -> 63.389011
  1024x 768@ 60Hz -> 63.044792
  1280x 720@ 60Hz -> 62.935744
DirectDraw: Mode selected =  352x 288@ 60Hz
DirectDraw: primary surface created: 352x288x32

here is my usermodes.txt

modeline '352x288 17,1kHz 55Hz' 7,96 352 368 408 464 288 289 292 312 -hsync -vsync

noticed it didnt even see the 352x288@55 in the verbose listing.

[SailorSat]

You DID install 15kHz AND Usermodes did you?
And what error do you get?

[bent98]

Yes I Did

I got a run time error 13

[SailorSat]

Oo...
Do you really use build 29? If so please attach the mode that generates the error.

[bent98]

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modeline "272x216@61p;15.75758kHz" 5.042424 272 288 288 320 216 230 253 260 -hsync -vsync
modeline "240x216@61p;15.75758kHz" 4.412121 240 256 248 280 216 230 253 260 -hsync -vsync
modeline "288x216@60p;15.72kHz" 5.28192 288 304 304 336 216 232 254 262 -hsync -vsync
modeline "320x224@59p;15.74337kHz" 5.919508 320 336 344 376 224 238 259 266 -hsync -vsync
modeline "512x432@60p;31.5kHz" 18.9 512 528 568 600 432 464 509 525 -hsync -vsync
modeline "256x240@57p;15.73989kHz" 4.784926 256 272 272 304 240 252 268 274 -hsync -vsync
modeline "240x224@56p;15.736kHz" 4.40608 240 256 248 280 224 244 271 281 -hsync -vsync
modeline "256x240@57p;15.73856kHz" 4.784522 256 272 272 304 240 252 268 274 -hsync -vsync
modeline "256x224@60p;15.74428kHz" 4.78626 256 272 272 304 224 238 257 264 -hsync -vsync
modeline "720x241@60p;15.76424kHz" 13.36807 720 752 784 848 241 249 259 263 -hsync -vsync
modeline "256x256@59p;15.74625kHz" 4.78686 256 272 272 304 256 260 264 266 -hsync -vsync
modeline "224x240@50p;15.75kHz" 4.158 224 240 232 264 240 264 303 315 -hsync -vsync
modeline "512x192@60p;15.72kHz" 9.432 512 528 568 600 192 216 250 262 -hsync -vsync
modeline "256x224@56p;15.736kHz" 4.783744 256 272 272 304 224 244 271 281 -hsync -vsync
modeline "384x224@56p;15.736kHz" 7.049728 384 400 416 448 224 244 271 281 -hsync -vsync
modeline "256x240@56p;15.736kHz" 4.783744 256 272 272 304 240 254 274 281 -hsync -vsync
modeline "511x399@55p;24.98207kHz" 14.98924 511 527 568 600 399 417 446 455 -hsync -vsync
modeline "399x253@55p;15.73195kHz" 7.425482 399 415 440 472 253 265 281 287 -hsync -vsync
modeline "512x400@57p;25.00417kHz" 15.0025 512 528 568 600 400 412 430 436 -hsync -vsync
modeline "400x256@57p;15.753kHz" 7.435416 400 416 440 472 256 264 274 278 -hsync -vsync
modeline "512x400@57p;25.02504kHz" 15.01502 512 528 568 600 400 412 432 438 -hsync -vsync
modeline "640x480@57p;31.521kHz" 23.70379 640 656 720 752 480 504 541 553 -hsync -vsync
modeline "400x256@60p;15.72kHz" 7.41984 400 416 440 472 256 258 261 262 -hsync -vsync
modeline "256x256@50p;15.75kHz" 4.788 256 272 272 304 256 276 305 315 -hsync -vsync
modeline "240x248@57p;15.77567kHz" 4.417186 240 256 248 280 248 258 273 278 -hsync -vsync
modeline "320x240@54p;15.768kHz" 5.928768 320 336 344 376 240 258 283 292 -hsync -vsync
modeline "320x224@61p;15.738kHz" 5.917488 320 336 344 376 224 236 252 258 -hsync -vsync
modeline "320x256@61p;15.738kHz" 5.917488 320 336 344 376 256 256 258 258 -hsync -vsync
modeline "320x224@61p;15.72327kHz" 5.911949 320 336 344 376 224 234 251 256 -hsync -vsync
modeline "248x224@60p;15.72kHz" 4.52736 248 264 256 288 224 236 256 262 -hsync -vsync
modeline "240x216@60p;15.72kHz" 4.4016 240 256 248 280 216 232 254 262 -hsync -vsync
modeline "256x224@54p;15.768kHz" 4.793472 256 272 272 304 224 246 281 292 -hsync -vsync
modeline "256x240@54p;15.768kHz" 4.793472 256 272 272 304 240 258 283 292 -hsync -vsync
modeline "256x224@54p;15.7634kHz" 4.792074 256 272 272 304 224 248 281 293 -hsync -vsync
modeline "256x216@60p;15.72kHz" 4.77888 256 272 272 304 216 232 254 262 -hsync -vsync
modeline "342x240@60p;15.72kHz" 6.288 342 358 368 400 240 248 258 262 -hsync -vsync
modeline "319x223@60p;15.72kHz" 5.91072 319 335 344 376 223 235 256 262 -hsync -vsync
modeline "320x224@59p;15.7738kHz" 5.930949 320 336 344 376 224 238 259 266 -hsync -vsync
modeline "256x224@55p;15.73582kHz" 4.783688 256 272 272 304 224 244 274 284 -hsync -vsync
modeline "376x240@60p;15.72kHz" 6.9168 376 392 408 440 240 248 258 262 -hsync -vsync
modeline "1024x512@60p;31.5kHz" 38.052 1024 1056 1144 1208 512 516 523 525 -hsync -vsync
modeline "368x240@60p;15.72kHz" 6.79104 368 384 400 432 240 248 258 262 -hsync -vsync
modeline "320x240@59p;15.7206kHz" 5.910945 320 336 344 376 240 248 262 266 -hsync -vsync
modeline "480x240@59p;15.7206kHz" 8.929301 480 496 536 568 240 248 262 266 -hsync -vsync
modeline "384x240@59p;15.7206kHz" 7.042829 384 400 416 448 240 248 262 266 -hsync -vsync
modeline "576x432@60p;31.5kHz" 21.42 576 592 648 680 432 464 509 525 -hsync -vsync
modeline "272x232@60p;15.72kHz" 5.0304 272 288 288 320 232 242 257 262 -hsync -vsync
modeline "448x224@60p;15.72kHz" 8.30016 448 464 496 528 224 236 256 262 -hsync -vsync
modeline "384x240@57p;15.75148kHz" 7.056663 384 400 416 448 240 252 272 278 -hsync -vsync
modeline "448x240@60p;15.72kHz" 8.30016 448 464 496 528 240 248 258 262 -hsync -vsync
modeline "304x232@60p;15.72kHz" 5.6592 304 320 328 360 232 242 257 262 -hsync -vsync
modeline "336x236@60p;15.72kHz" 6.16224 336 352 360 392 236 244 258 262 -hsync -vsync
modeline "344x240@60p;15.72kHz" 6.41376 344 360 376 408 240 248 258 262 -hsync -vsync
modeline "384x384@60p;25.02kHz" 11.20896 384 400 416 448 384 396 411 417 -hsync -vsync
modeline "351x251@60p;15.72kHz" 6.53952 351 367 384 416 251 255 260 262 -hsync -vsync
modeline "320x224@56p;15.736kHz" 5.916736 320 336 344 376 224 244 271 281 -hsync -vsync
modeline "512x240@60p;15.74519kHz" 9.447115 512 528 568 600 240 248 258 262 -hsync -vsync
modeline "256x234@60p;15.72kHz" 4.77888 256 272 272 304 234 244 257 262 -hsync -vsync
modeline "384x280@60p;25.02kHz" 11.20896 384 400 416 448 280 326 394 417 -hsync -vsync
modeline "256x288@60p;25.02kHz" 7.60608 256 272 272 304 288 332 395 417 -hsync -vsync
modeline "368x224@60p;15.72kHz" 6.79104 368 384 400 432 224 236 256 262 -hsync -vsync
modeline "304x240@58p;15.776kHz" 5.67936 304 320 328 360 240 250 267 272 -hsync -vsync
modeline "320x224@58p;15.776kHz" 5.931776 320 336 344 376 224 240 264 272 -hsync -vsync
modeline "256x248@60p;15.72kHz" 4.77888 256 272 272 304 248 252 260 262 -hsync -vsync
modeline "360x224@60p;15.72kHz" 6.66528 360 376 392 424 224 236 256 262 -hsync -vsync
modeline "360x224@58p;15.776kHz" 6.689024 360 376 392 424 224 240 264 272 -hsync -vsync
modeline "304x224@58p;15.776kHz" 5.67936 304 320 328 360 224 240 264 272 -hsync -vsync
modeline "380x224@60p;15.72kHz" 7.04256 380 396 416 448 224 236 256 262 -hsync -vsync
modeline "320x240@55p;15.73kHz" 5.91448 320 336 344 376 240 256 278 286 -hsync -vsync
modeline "508x224@60p;15.72kHz" 9.432 508 524 568 600 224 236 256 262 -hsync -vsync
modeline "508x240@60p;15.72kHz" 9.432 508 524 568 600 240 248 258 262 -hsync -vsync



Yes i did use build 29

plus these new ones you created dont all work dont with monitor either.

[SailorSat]

Mhm... It was a typo in the mode generator...
Try this one...

[bent98]

  that worked with no errors, but monitor doesnt like those resolutions

couldnt sync

screen went crazy



 224x 224@ 61Hz -> 717.406697
  240x 224@ 60Hz -> 62.276498
  240x 240@ 60Hz -> 62.279536
  256x 208@ 60Hz -> 62.273001
  256x 208@ 61Hz -> 717.400162
  256x 224@ 60Hz -> 62.274461
  256x 224@ 61Hz -> 717.401621
  256x 240@ 60Hz -> 62.276498
  256x 256@ 60Hz -> 62.279536
  256x 264@ 60Hz -> 62.281696
  272x 224@ 60Hz -> 62.273001
  272x 224@ 61Hz -> 717.400162
  272x 236@ 60Hz -> 62.274053
  288x 224@ 60Hz -> 62.271904
  288x 224@ 61Hz -> 717.399064
  288x 240@ 60Hz -> 62.273001
  296x 240@ 60Hz -> 62.272416
  304x 224@ 60Hz -> 62.271048
  304x 240@ 60Hz -> 62.271904
  321x 240@ 60Hz -> 62.271001
  321x 256@ 60Hz -> 62.271844
  336x 240@ 60Hz -> 62.270363
  352x 256@ 60Hz -> 62.270363
  352x 264@ 60Hz -> 62.270688
  352x 288@ 60Hz -> 70.016090
  368x 240@ 60Hz -> 62.269333
  384x 288@ 60Hz -> 68.475332
  392x 240@ 60Hz -> 62.268760
  401x 256@ 60Hz -> 62.268914
  448x 240@ 60Hz -> 62.267815
  448x 384@ 60Hz -> 65.379417
  480x  64@ 60Hz -> 62.266231
  496x 480@ 60Hz -> 64.414690
  512x 224@ 60Hz -> 62.266985
  512x 240@ 60Hz -> 62.267119
  512x 288@ 60Hz -> 65.724360
  512x 384@ 60Hz -> 64.861554
  512x 448@ 60Hz -> 64.491323
  512x 512@ 60Hz -> 64.213470
  632x 264@ 60Hz -> 62.266461
  640x 240@ 60Hz -> 62.266302
  640x 288@ 60Hz -> 64.662233
  640x 480@ 60Hz -> 63.906188
  720x 480@ 60Hz -> 63.715531
  800x 600@ 60Hz -> 63.389011
 1024x 480@ 60Hz -> 63.271201
 1024x 768@ 60Hz -> 63.044792
 1280x 720@ 60Hz -> 62.935744
irectDraw: Mode selected =  224x 224@ 61Hz
irectDraw: primary surface created: 224x224x32 (R=00FF0000
)
irectDraw: New blit size = 224x288
irectDraw: blit surface created: 224x288x32 (R=00FF0000 G=
irectSound: Primary buffer: 48000 Hz, 16 bits, 2 channels
awInput: APIs detected
nput: Adding Mouse #1: \??\HID#Vid_045e&Pid_0039#6&2c66b9f
f-11d1-bc8c-00a0c91405dd}
nput: Adding Gun #1: \??\HID#Vid_045e&Pid_0039#6&2c66b9f9&
11d1-bc8c-00a0c91405dd}
nput: Adding Mouse #2: \??\HID#Vid_fafa&Pid_0020#6&37ce979
f-11d1-bc8c-00a0c91405dd}
nput: Adding Gun #2: \??\HID#Vid_fafa&Pid_0020#6&37ce9792&
11d1-bc8c-00a0c91405dd}
nput: Adding Mouse #3: \??\HID#Vid_fafa&Pid_0060#6&3293176
f-11d1-bc8c-00a0c91405dd}
nput: Adding Gun #3: \??\HID#Vid_fafa&Pid_0060#6&3293176f&
11d1-bc8c-00a0c91405dd}
nput: Adding Kbd #1: \??\HID#Vid_047b&Pid_0011#6&35de7bcd&
11d1-bc8c-00a0c91405dd}
nput: Adding Kbd #2: \??\HID#Vid_d209&Pid_0301&MI_00#8&2aa
-56ef-11d1-bc8c-00a0c91405dd}
nput: Adding Kbd #3: \??\HID#Vid_d209&Pid_0301&MI_01#8&6d4
56ef-11d1-bc8c-00a0c91405dd}
irectInput: Using DirectInput 7
nput: Changing default joystick map = s8.4s8.44s8.4445
 s8888888s
 4s88888s6
 44s888s66
 444555666
 444555666
 444555666
 44s222s66
 4s22222s6
 s2222222s
ound: buffer overflows=1 underflows=0

[SailorSat]

How did you hook up your monitor?

[bent98]

VGA cable. Why do you ask?



Video card is X1900XT and has two  DVI and I use DVI to VGA converter

Dont have any issues

Here is specs on monitor

http://www.billabs.com/bl27cb0p.htm

[SailorSat]

Hm... Well then I can't help you.
I don't see why it doesn't work.

[bent98]

Try only to add the usermodes, NOT the base 15kHz ones (as they ALL will be added with 60Hz to the registry).
As for MAME, in your INI try setting "resolution0" not "resolution", MAME seems to have some... pretty nasty behaviour...


I was reading over what you said here. Are you saying when using that monster list you created dont install 15khz just install usermodes? Custom15k resolutions override the usermodes??

[SailorSat]

No... the base 15kHz modes get added as 60Hz, though the 288 line modes really just have 50Hz...

[bent98]

No... the base 15kHz modes get added as 60Hz, though the 288 line modes really just have 50Hz...

I understand that part. What I am asking is this. When using usermodes can resolutions from those usermodes co exist with the defaults in soft15. Again it seems like when a default resolution is present a duplicate resolutions with a different refresh inserting in the  usermodes.txt wont be  recongizned.

Only way I can get a different linemode is to remove that resolution from custom15khz and then re add new one.

Hm... Well then I can't help you.
I don't see why it doesn't work.

Dont give up on me. There has to be sometype of adjustment to the modelines to get them to work.

[Xb0x3r]

I've got a WG 25k7193, currently with soft15kHz running (15khz installed) I don't seem to get any picture at all. I pulled this out of an old beat-up Outrunners Cab.

Any ideas on how to even get some sort of picture on it?

[john_abey]

thanks for the great program

hantarx polo 25" serial #40029
geforce 5200fx nvidia drivers and soft 15 only 15kHz installed

problem is there is a black line threw the screen half screen shows full screen other 1/4 of screen all over the place
<a href="http://s246.photobucket.com/albums/gg98/john_abey/?action=view&current=DSC01564.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg98/john_abey/DSC01564.jpg" border="0" alt="arcadesplitscreen"></a>

anyhelp would be much appreciated

[SailorSat]

When using usermodes can resolutions from those usermodes co exist with the defaults in soft15.

Yes they do, as the base 15kHz modes have the lowest priority.

Dont give up on me. There has to be sometype of adjustment to the modelines to get them to work.

I only can say that those modelines work fine for my two Hantarex Polos, my Hantarex MTC 9110 and my good old Commodore 1084.

You will have to investigate yourself where the problem is, as I simply don't have your monitor and thus no way to try around, sorry.

I've got a WG 25k7193, currently with soft15kHz running (15khz installed) I don't seem to get any picture at all. I pulled this out of an old beat-up Outrunners Cab.

Any ideas on how to even get some sort of picture on it?

Hm... What graphics card are you using? How is it connected with the monitor?

hantarx polo 25" serial #40029
geforce 5200fx nvidia drivers and soft 15 only 15kHz installed

problem is there is a black line threw the screen half screen shows full screen other 1/4 of screen all over the place

Mhm...
Looks to me as If your card output is still 31kHz.
What drivers do you use exactly?

What resolution do you have your Windows set to?
Does it happen with other resolution too?

[Xb0x3r]

Here's the thread with some pictures now, I just randomly got a picture on the monitor while fiddling around with the nVidia Control Panel. Now it thinks there are two monitors (which is true, one is my normal computer monitor).

I'm using an nVidia GeForce 5950

Here's the thread: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=77887.0

[SailorSat]

Yeah actually I "force" the detection of two monitors as a J-PAC or a Ultimarc VGA Amp won't be "sensed" as a valid display, which is bad If you want to use dualhead

As for now... Do you still have a image on your VGA monitor after reboot?
If so, your card doesn't output 15kHz but 31+kHz.

Also after installing Soft-15kHz DO a reboot, and don't fiddle around in the control panel, as it will overwrite any settings

[Xb0x3r]

My VGA monitor does not show anything but "Frequency Over Range." Now the picture is decent but is partially squished at the bottom of the screen. I'll update my other thread tomorrow with pictures of it.

[damdai]

Still no luck on getting soft15k to work for me. With powerstrip, I was able to create a custom 15k resolution and test it, but after rebooting it would not be selectable anywhere (through powerstrip and quickres). For some reason they aren't sticking in the registry or aren't being loaded from the registry upon reboot. Is there a way I can confirm this? Would the fact that I'm using windows server 2003 have anything to do with it? The architecture is virtually identical to XP. There has never been anything that runs on XP that I was not able to run on 2003. I purchased an arcadevga card. Hopefully this will solve my problems.

[john_abey]

oem drivers version: 82.65z2

windows running 640 x 420

the higher i go the more desktops there are 1240 780 showed 3 desktops across screen
450x254 shows around 6 to 10 windows

thanks and keep working on the great program

[SailorSat]

oem drivers version: 82.65z2

windows running 640 x 420

the higher i go the more desktops there are 1240 780 showed 3 desktops across screen
450x254 shows around 6 to 10 windows

thanks and keep working on the great program

Try this one -> http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_93.71.html

For some reason they aren't sticking in the registry or aren't being loaded from the registry upon reboot. --- Would the fact that I'm using windows server 2003 have anything to do with it? --- I purchased an arcadevga card. Hopefully this will solve my problems.

Hm...
As for 2003 Server, should work fine, I'm using XP-64Bit, which itself is basically 2003 Client.
I'm curious why the registry changes don't stick.

Hm yeah as long as you have an 32Bit Version of 2003 the ArcadeVGA should solve the problem, as there are no 64Bit drivers for the ArcadeVGA.

[damdai]

Yea, I'm running 32bit. I'll post my results when I get the card set up.

[john_abey]

thanks the driver worked
thanks the driver worked 

now to get my keyboard hack working

when i checked nvidia the driver download was version 169 or so
how to find old drivers

[SailorSat]

Theres a button somewhere to a driver archive

[northerngames]

 I installed a PCI card and made it the primary display under the bios setting and I had also disabled the PCI display under windows and I still am getting the bios screens with both AGP & PCI card's connected with those settings.

 I figured I would leave the setting like above and pulled the PCI card out and rebooted the pc to see what happens and it still loaded the bios screens even without the pci hooked to the PC but with it was still set as the main display in the bios settings.

think the card is too old or malfunctioned?

I am running XP pro SP2 for a OS.

I also have 5 PCI slots and had the card sitting in slot#3 of the 5 PCI slots

any idea's?