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shorthair:
That's weird that Mike would move to Vegas. But I don't know him that well. He's always moving upward, spiritually, I think, so go figure. However, why would conditioning suck? What does 'it's really just bodyweight exercises that he did when he was a wrestler' mean? Has he tried them?...like, as a serious routine?...let alone studied them? He doesn't give any qualifiers. He also doesn't reflect on Mahler's article on them. That Furey is a marketing genius has nothing to do with CC - except insofar as he was able to bring the product to market. I at least gave technical qualifiers on why it's good. Cosgrove doesn't even give a vague alternative. But that's why he makes money at it. Hmmm..... Also, and Furey talks about this, why would being good in one thing mean it doesn't translate to other things?...except the wrestling - and martial arts and grappling - came before the internet marketing, etc...
These are serious questions.
As for metabolic typing, if we look at how long things take to evolve: hundreds of millenia as meat eaters, some millenia of gradual introduction of dairy and agriculture, respectively, which shows why there are so many protein types, only a few decades of garbage food culture.... Evolution is against him.
Oop, except look what I, just looking around for a minute, found on Mahler's site:
http://www.mikemahler.com/articles/cosgrove1.html
Your body is a barbell
No dumbbells, no barbells, no problem
By Alwyn Cosgrove
In fact when you think about it, the only reason to ever use external load (i.e. weights) is because your bodyweight is not enough resistance.
Glaine:
Well, I like Earl Gray tea and this tea called Constant Complement that has orange rind in it. Green Tea is for tourists trying to look cool, or maybe it's a developed taste like people who can drink black coffee.
As for typing, I still like The Typing of the Dead.
AtomSmasher:
--- Quote from: shorthair on May 08, 2007, 11:06:30 pm ---That's weird that Mike would move to Vegas. But I don't know him that well. He's always moving upward, spiritually, I think, so go figure. However, why would conditioning suck? What does 'it's really just bodyweight exercises that he did when he was a wrestler' mean? Has he tried them?...like, as a serious routine?...let alone studied them? He doesn't give any qualifiers. He also doesn't reflect on Mahler's article on them. That Furey is a marketing genius has nothing to do with CC - except insofar as he was able to bring the product to market. I at least gave technical qualifiers on why it's good. Cosgrove doesn't even give a vague alternative. But that's why he makes money at it. Hmmm..... Also, and Furey talks about this, why would being good in one thing mean it doesn't translate to other things?...except the wrestling - and martial arts and grappling - came before the internet marketing, etc...
These are serious questions.
As for metabolic typing, if we look at how long things take to evolve: hundreds of millenia as meat eaters, some millenia of gradual introduction of dairy and agriculture, respectively, which shows why there are so many protein types, only a few decades of garbage food culture.... Evolution is against him.
Oop, except look what I, just looking around for a minute, found on Mahler's site:
http://www.mikemahler.com/articles/cosgrove1.html
Your body is a barbell
No dumbbells, no barbells, no problem
By Alwyn Cosgrove
In fact when you think about it, the only reason to ever use external load (i.e. weights) is because your bodyweight is not enough resistance.
--- End quote ---
I asked him if he could just quickly give me his thoughts on it, which is what he did. I'm sure he could go on and on about exactly why the book sucks, but the short version is just that it sucks. I do enjoy that fact that you think you know much more about exercising and nutrition then him, what are your qualifications on the subject again?
edit* also, you mention how he didn't reflect on the article or anything you said about it, thats because I didn't point him to the article or tell him anything you said about it. He's a busy guy which is why I only asked for his brief thoughts on the topics.
AtomSmasher:
I just got a reply from my sister on the topic of Metabolic Typing:
--- Quote ---I took the certification to do metabolic typing and learned all about it. There is definitely something to it but basically all it means is that each person is an individual- some people do well on high protein/ high fat such as Atkins, others do well on high carb /low fat such as Vegetarian but most people when I tested them ended up right down the middle and did best on a balanced 40/30/30 type menu such as The Zone.
The other premise of the diet is whole foods- no processed foods. This is huge for most people. If people just eliminate processed junk food they will feel a lot better anyway.
--- End quote ---
shorthair:
Okay, I goofed on the Mahler article part. As for MT, I wouldn't characterise it that way at all. According to MT, almost all people should eat some form of animal protein. What differentiates is the type and amount, as well as the types of fat they can consume, along with the types of carbs, though vegetable carbs are emphasised for all. Also, the types of vegetables people can eat depends. It doesn't sound like he's got it down.
I do agree with his statment on processed foods. (However, a lot of people don't know how to define that.) I also think the two articles of his I read (one was that linked) at Mahler's were keen. Neither of you have addressed the contradiction of the linked article and his statements (let alone his new book). As well, the concept of the linked article is keen - but some of the exercises are more complicated than CC, as well as requiring gear, and none are as comprehensive. Go look back at those pictures in the Mahler article, try a hindu push-up, and come tell me what you think.
As for credentials, did Einstein have credentials before he made certain discoveries? No, I bet that one'll just make you howl. Okay: did Mahler have any credentials besides his ket certification before he started training people? Big flat no. He says so, too. 'He comes from the school of hardknocks....'
The first point is: what is the most functional?
The next point is: why are you (whoever it is) sitting around making a fuss when all you have to do is get off your ass for a moment and try it? This is byoac, right?
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