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shmokes:

--- Quote from: patrickl on May 03, 2007, 07:38:56 am ---
BTW they started the test with normal weight persons and checked their weight gain over a few years. It's not like they took all the fatties and counted the ones drinking diet soda vs regular soda.


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Okay, that makes sense, then.  I should have assummed that they wouldn't be that stupid.

KenToad:

--- Quote from: Peale on May 02, 2007, 09:24:07 pm ---
--- Quote from: KenToad on May 02, 2007, 03:41:21 pm ---Yup, most sodas contain sugar in the form of corn syrup.  It's a killer, man. 

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High Fructose Corn Syrup isn't corn syrup.  They take corn starch and run it thru a few chemicals and enzymes to convert it into a glucose/fructose syrup.

Glucose is a sugar that every cell in your body can metabolize. 

Fructose, OTOH, is not.  Your liver has to break it down.

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Usually, corn syrup is just simply diluted High Fructose Corn Syrup.  They usually dilute with Glucose, but it's cheaper to always start with a very highly concentrated fructose syrup and dilute down to whatever concentration is needed. 

I actually wrote an article about this subject last year.  The food industry is not forced to differentiate between high fructose and just plain old corn syrup in a very distinct way, if I'm remembering correctly.  You won't get glucose syrup out of corn products, since glucose is sugar from vegetable sources, for example sugar beets.  And, you're right that glucose is better, since it doesn't do that "metabolic shunting" thing where the fructose bypasses the stomach and causes problems for the liver and heart. 

Also, it should be noted that metabolic shunting only happens with purified fructose.  Fructose in it's "natural" form has fiber and other things that help to keep it in the stomach, where it can be broken down without all the nasty side effects.

There are still doctors and nutritionists who claim that sugar is sugar, so I'm glad that this information is getting spread around more and more.

shmokes:
And watch carbs, as they are practically sugar the second they hit your tongue.  I'm not talking about Atkins or some rot like that, but keep an eye on em.  This includes beer.  DRINK LIGHT BEER ONLY!  And try to keep it to one or two beers per night.  Start drinking more water.  Heinekin Light is pretty good for a light beer, IMO.  Give it a try.

ChadTower:

In my experience, if you want to lose weight, beer has to go.  None of the light beer only crap.  I have never been able to drop weight with beer on the menu, not in any amount or any type.  In fact, alcohol in general has to be limited extensively because of the metabolic depression it brings on, not only while you're drunk but for at least the day following.

shmokes:
Absolutely.  No beer is clearly better.  It just seems like a sacrifice that is not worth it for many people, and could potentially kill the entire diet.  For example, I do not eat foods with hydrogenated oil in them.  I have cut them out of my diet 100%.  Well, 99%.  There is no Nutella alternative, and Nutella has hydrogenated oil in it.  It's just too damned good to give up.

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