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video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« on: April 27, 2007, 06:00:39 pm »
Hi all, still very new to this.....so please bare with me.

On start up of Galaga (one of my favourites) it say "there is known problems with this game, the video emulation isn't 100% accurate" type O.K to continue.

Well, as far as I can tell this game (and many others that bring up this message) play fine. I was wondering, is there any way of getting this message to not show??

I'm running mame 1.01, with the same version of roms. I've tried 0.75 & 0.81 (with there corrosponding roms), and still get the same message.......

Any help guys

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2007, 07:40:35 pm »
Only if you compile a version yourself with this message removed.

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2007, 09:31:43 pm »
Thanks for that, but I think that's beyond me.

Has someone written a "how to recompile" for dummies??

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2007, 10:05:03 pm »
Has someone written a "how to recompile" for dummies??

Funny you should mention that:
http://www.mameworld.net/mrdo/compile.html

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2007, 05:22:58 am »
 :laugh2:

Coincidence?

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2007, 07:18:07 am »
Many many thanks.....I'll give it a go, but still think it's beyond me

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2007, 10:50:48 am »
Many many thanks.....I'll give it a go, but still think it's beyond me

As long as you're not one of those GEICO cavemen, you'll do fine.

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2007, 04:33:31 pm »

GEICO??? sorry, no idea what that stands for...but hopefully not!!
« Last Edit: April 28, 2007, 05:58:46 pm by sega_mad »

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2007, 06:08:52 pm »
GEICO??? sorry, no idea what that stands for...but hopefully not!!

Sorry.  Its a U.S. insurance company.  Their commercials feature cavemen who get insulted because their spokesmen say its so easy a cave man could do it.

Trust me.  Compiling Mame is very easy and does not take long.  See the hiscore diff thread that is stickied at the top.  Compiling with this patch puts hi score support back into Mame and removes the unwanted warnings.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2007, 06:11:26 pm by SGT »

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2007, 08:36:06 pm »
Cool, will give it a go. Thanks for the encouragement and help

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2007, 11:11:14 pm »
Is there any way to compile earlier versions of mame? I'm currently using .37b16 and 0.59 on my 400 mhz. I followed the links but seems to be for .63 and up.

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2007, 03:46:50 am »
GEICO??? sorry, no idea what that stands for...but hopefully not!!

Sorry.  Its a U.S. insurance company.  Their commercials feature cavemen who get insulted because their spokesmen say its so easy a cave man could do it.

Trust me.  Compiling Mame is very easy and does not take long.  See the hiscore diff thread that is stickied at the top.  Compiling with this patch puts hi score support back into Mame and removes the unwanted warnings.

HE LIES! Geico is actually G.E.I.C.O., or General Electronic Individual Calibrated for Obliteration. They're a secret governmental organization composed of killing robots, or Murderbots™, tasked with the destruction of those trying to recompile arcade roms that secretly contain government documents. I mean, what did you think, people were actuall playing games with these roms? HA! G.E.I.C.O. has been transferring secrets in this way for decades. And building so-called "MAME Cabs"? Nope, simply a front for those that contruct these Murderbots™.

Go, now, get out of your house! They're already locked on to your location, they'll be there momentarily. Get on the first plane to Helsinki, lay low for a while, and I'll contact you when the coast is clear. I'll will contact you under the guise of "Mr. Peabody". Until then, god speed.

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2007, 10:49:41 am »
Is there any way to compile earlier versions of mame? I'm currently using .37b16 and 0.59 on my 400 mhz. I followed the links but seems to be for .63 and up.

I, too, would like to know this. There are no "compile utilities" for versions under .63

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2007, 05:04:58 pm »
Hey SGT, I must still have some caveman DNA....couldn't get the recompiling to fully work.

I followed Mr. Do's instructions on recompiling, but still have some Q's.

I wasn't sure if I had to edit the makemame.bat and patchmame.bat...so didin't, also skipped the apply the DIFF update.

I got it to compile, but only 3 of the 4 folders were in my MAMESRC folder. It was missing xml2info.exe.

That all said. even after copying them to my mame folder...what do I do with them. The only thing I could think of was there may be some added things I can change in the mame.ini file???

All I want to do is get rid of the "there are known problems with this game, the video/sound emulation is not 100% accurate"

Also....just wondering if the lastest version of mame, has this option already programmed, that way, I could just get a new rom set!!

Told you I was a bit lost with this.

Hope you can help (In plain old "dumb ass" speak please)

Cheers
« Last Edit: April 29, 2007, 05:12:20 pm by sega_mad »

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2007, 07:19:57 pm »
Sounds like you got it to compile. You just didn't apply the hi_score patch by editing the patchmame.bat file.   The file xml2info.exe wasn't there for me nor was it needed.  To try it again, I would start with fresh (empty) folders for c:\mingw and c:\mamesrc.  Here is what I did:

NOTE:  These instructions for version 0114 are only possible because of Mr. Do's excellent compiling instructions found here:
http://www.mameworld.net/mrdo/compile.html


1) Download mingw-mame-20060210.exe from:
http://www.mamedev.org/tools/
Run it and in the "extract to" box type C:\

2) Download dx80_mgw.zip from
http://www.mamedev.org/tools/
Extract it to the c:\mingw folder

3) Download the mame source mame0114s.zip from here:
http://mirrors.xmission.com/mame/main/mame0114s.zip

4) Inside mame0114s.zip is another zip file called mame.zip
Extract the contents of mame.zip to c:\mamesrc

5) Download hi_114.txt from this thread:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=64298.0
Put hi_114.txt into the c:\mamesrc folder

6) Download the patch utilities here:
http://www.mameworld.net/mrdo/files/compile_extras.zip
Extract the contents into the c:\mamesrc folder

7) Edit the line in the patchmame.bat to read:
patch -p0 -E <hi_114.txt

8. At the command prompt in the c:\mamesrc directory type:
patchmame

9) At the command prompt in the c:\mamesrc directory type:
makemame


Note: You may need the latest galaga rom to work with this version of Mame.  Or you can use older Mame source, but be sure to use the hi_score patch to match the older source.  The earliest hi_score patch that I see is  hi_107u2.txt  (for Mame 1.07)


« Last Edit: April 29, 2007, 11:09:21 pm by SGT »

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2007, 08:08:43 pm »
Many thanks SGT

That's pretty much what I did, bar the hi score patch...will give it another go!!

Once I've done that....then what do I do to remove the "message"

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2007, 08:22:53 pm »
I think I might just get version 114 roms and be done with it

Do games like daytona work correctly on this version

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2007, 08:26:24 pm »
Once I've done that....then what do I do to remove the "message"

That is all.  If you copy this version of mame.exe over into the mame folder that you normally run mame from, all nag screens are supposed to be gone.  If you have a real old version of mame you may want to download the full install of the latest version so that the setup program creates the folders for you.  Then copy your newly compiled mame.exe over the top of the old one.

Now if you want the high score function to work, then you must create a subfolder under mame called 'hi'. You must also download the hiscore.dat file and copy it to the same folder that mame is in. You can get it here:
http://www.mameworld.net/highscore/download.htm

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2007, 08:30:27 pm »
Do games like daytona work correctly on this version

ElSemi has a little more work to do with his Model 2 emulator to get Daytona working perfectly.  However he seems to be very close.
http://nebula.emulatronia.com/

See screenshots here:
http://haze.mameworld.info/2007/03/12/when-great-minds-combine/

Once he is finished, I think his work will be incorporated into Mame.

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2007, 08:58:20 pm »
Man it looks all good.....can't wait.

Will order 114 roms and have another go.

Thanks SGT for all your help

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2007, 10:04:12 pm »
sega_mad,

Arrggghhh, you may want to hold off.  I just tested the new galaga rom on a 0113u2 build with the hi_113u2.txt patch, and it DID NOT suppress the "There are known problems with this game" message.  I am going to PM the author of the patch who I think is MKCHAMP to see if he knows what's going on.  Sorry for the confusion.

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2007, 10:32:10 pm »
Bugger............I've already ordered them!!

If you could let me know what you find out, that would be great. PM me if you like.

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2007, 10:38:26 pm »
SGT

Here's a cut and paste of what MKCHAMP said from the hi score thread

"Added hi_113u2_noNag diff because I realized the nag screen removal wasn't working. "

maybe this will help.

If it does, can you "walk me through" what needs to be done??

Thanks so much for all your help

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2007, 10:50:32 pm »
Quote
Added hi_113u2_noNag diff because I realized the nag screen removal wasn't working. "


Ahhhh, good find sega_mad; I didn't notice that.  Yep it was left out of hi_113u2, so that's why its not working for me.  I looked at the code in hi_114.txt and the warning removal code is in it.  I'll patch again and make sure the galaga message is gone.  If it is, my original directions should stand.

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2007, 11:53:21 am »
Geico cavemen:
I have changed my nickname to "Cakemeister". Please do not PM the Buddabing account because I do not check it anymore.

Please read the wiki!

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Re: video emulation isn't 100% accurate message
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2007, 02:45:31 pm »
The one that started it all:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qqCcSc-se24