Main Restorations Software Audio/Jukebox/MP3 Everything Else Buy/Sell/Trade
Project Announcements Monitor/Video GroovyMAME Merit/JVL Touchscreen Meet Up Retail Vendors
Driving & Racing Woodworking Software Support Forums Consoles Project Arcade Reviews
Automated Projects Artwork Frontend Support Forums Pinball Forum Discussion Old Boards
Raspberry Pi & Dev Board controls.dat Linux Miscellaneous Arcade Wiki Discussion Old Archives
Lightguns Arcade1Up Try the site in https mode Site News

Unread posts | New Replies | Recent posts | Rules | Chatroom | Wiki | File Repository | RSS | Submit news

  

Author Topic: Happ 3 vs 4.5" ball  (Read 2496 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Elkor

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 102
  • Last login:February 12, 2007, 12:42:50 pm
  • What did I just say?
    • Full Circuit
Happ 3 vs 4.5" ball
« on: March 21, 2002, 12:07:30 pm »
I am going to buy a trackball from happ for a new cab I am doing (my first!) and I see that almost all the trackballs that other people have used are 3" models.

I seem to remember trackballs being bigger than 3" when I was a kid (MC?) and I noticed that happ does have a 4.5" TB (that seems about right) and it's even cheaper! (well, it's sans wiring harness but as I will most likely use an optipac that should not be a big issue anyway.)  It looks like I may have to fab my own mounting plate as well.

Has anybody used this hardware?
were trackballs bigger?
will there ever be a mounting plate that fits?!?!?

tune in next time!  (or, preferably, reply with an answer!)

thanx

-C
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by 1026619200 »
The sudden sight of me causes panic in the streets. They have yet to learn
-- only the savage fears what he does not understand.
                -- The Silver Surfer

RacerX

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 831
  • Last login:June 17, 2022, 12:06:34 pm
  • Longtime member, sometime poster.
Re: Happ 3 vs 4.5" ball
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2002, 08:05:04 pm »
Trackball size varied by game.  For example, Missle Command was a big trackball (about 4 or 4.5 inches), while Centipede was about 3", or maybe even a little smaller.  I got the 3" because it seemed about right for most games.  I love Centipede, and I just couldn't bring myself to play that with a 4.5" trackball.

It's just a matter of personal preference.

« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by 1026619200 »

Billabong

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 71
  • Last login:December 17, 2016, 09:05:48 am
  • Loosing Flynn...
    • Pure arcade Xstikcy
Re: Happ 3 vs 4.5" ball
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2002, 06:12:08 am »
With the Happs 4":
The ball is seperate from the actual mechanism. You need to order both.
55-0226-00 is the 4 1/2" trackball "without ball" (need this)
Then pick one of these:
55-0300-00 is the red ball.
55-0300-02 is the blue ball.

They do have mounting plates here: http://www.happcontrols.com/trackballs/55110100.htm

Later,
Billabong
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by 1026619200 »
"So, you took apart a joystick to make...another joystick?"

Elkor

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 102
  • Last login:February 12, 2007, 12:42:50 pm
  • What did I just say?
    • Full Circuit
Re: Happ 3 vs 4.5" ball
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2002, 07:52:16 am »
Quote
With the Happs 4":
The ball is seperate from the actual mechanism. You need to order both.
55-0226-00 is the 4 1/2" trackball "without ball" (need this)
Then pick one of these:
55-0300-00 is the red ball.
55-0300-02 is the blue ball.

They do have mounting plates here: http://www.happcontrols.com/trackballs/55110100.htm

Later,
Billabong



Thanks for that!  The site is a bit misleading in the fact that the picture is the mech&ball and the links at the bottom lead you to believe that you can buy it (as a whole) with either a red, blue, or without any ball.  Did not see the 4.5" mounting plate on that list though, only 3", 3" highball and below.

-C
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by 1026619200 »
The sudden sight of me causes panic in the streets. They have yet to learn
-- only the savage fears what he does not understand.
                -- The Silver Surfer

Lilwolf

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4946
  • Last login:July 31, 2022, 10:26:34 pm
Re: Happ 3 vs 4.5" ball
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2002, 09:05:54 am »
I might be wrong here... but I dont' think any classic arcade (or any new ones I can think of) used the 4.5" trackball.  I think it's a new thing.

Centepede used the 2 1/4 and missle command used the 3" I'm pretty sure.

But if you can afford it, I'm sure you will love it.  I don't think it's really worth it since you could get multiple instead (ESPECIALLY if you go wico)
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by 1026619200 »

RacerX

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 831
  • Last login:June 17, 2022, 12:06:34 pm
  • Longtime member, sometime poster.
Re: Happ 3 vs 4.5" ball
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2002, 01:52:08 pm »
Quote
I might be wrong here... but I dont' think any classic arcade (or any new ones I can think of) used the 4.5" trackball.

kjc

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1
  • Last login:Never
  • I want to Build My Own Arcade Controls!!
Re: Happ 3 vs 4.5" ball
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2002, 11:27:14 pm »
Actually Missile Command (upright) and Atari Football used a 4 1/2" trackball.  Millipede and Crystal Castles a 3" and Centipede a 2 1/4".  The cocktail versions and cabarets of Missile Command also used a 2 1/4".  Newer games like Golden Tee tend to use a 3" trackball.

Playing Missile Command with one of the smaller trackballs isn't quite the same but I imagine Centipede with the 4 1/2" isn't either.  I'll give it a try and let you know.  ;)

Quote
Thanks, Lilwolf.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by 1026619200 »

ErikRuud

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1709
  • Last login:March 05, 2021, 10:20:27 am
  • I'll build a cab for only 99.99.99!!!
    • Erik's humble video game page
Re: Happ 3 vs 4.5" ball
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2002, 06:01:21 am »
I was playing Missile Command last night with my 3" Crayola Kids ball.  It seems pretty good to me.  

I also tried it with Atarti Football,  forgot how exhausting that game could be!

« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 pm by 1026619200 »
Real Life.  Still a poor substitute for video games!       
American Laser Games Wrapper
O2em Rom Utility