Author Topic: Somebody dimensioned their star wars cockpit (Read 50076 times)

JoyMonkey · « **Reply #80 on:** April 17, 2007, 11:07:18 am »

I'll try and get the artwork web gallery updated with the Star Wars cockpit artwork soon, there's a bunch of useful reference photos in there too that might come in handy.

rovingmind · « **Reply #81 on:** April 17, 2007, 06:50:50 pm »

I looked at the filesets again on jakobud (it has been awhile) for reference as to how to post this project. His drawings are basically what i was thinking about for construction drawings.

I will still post the dxf files also.

I might be able to get Adobe Illustrator files as well if i can talk a friend into it.

SavannahLion · « **Reply #82 on:** April 18, 2007, 03:37:36 pm »

Quote from: Zeppo on April 10, 2007, 02:53:24 pm

Well, if I won the auction, then I would be happy to help out with whatever pictures or measurements you need.
This cab is located about 20 miles from me, so I could go pick it up, but I don't think I'll be able to afford it.
It will probably go for about $1500 or so.
If not lots more.

Just a heads up, the auction ended back on the 15th and the cab went for $2,775.53 with a recommended shipping option of $430.

JoyMonkey · « **Reply #83 on:** April 19, 2007, 07:35:11 am »

I got the gallery updated with the Star Wars artwork files. Lots of stuff to drool over here:
http://artwork.joymonkey.com/index.php?option=com_rsgallery2&Itemid=26&catid=17

JoyMonkey · « **Reply #84 on:** April 19, 2007, 08:26:59 am »

Now that I think about it, I could probably load the artwork files into a graphics package and get some fairly accurate measurements of the side panels. It'd be interesting to see how close these measurements are to Modessitt's measurements of the actual cabinet.

ChadTower · « **Reply #85 on:** April 19, 2007, 08:35:48 am »

Dammit now I really want to build one of these, but then that leaves me with the standup SW to do something with.

JoyMonkey · « **Reply #86 on:** April 19, 2007, 08:40:48 am »

I'll take it!

JoyMonkey · « **Reply #87 on:** April 19, 2007, 10:01:58 am »

Just to check out the artwork file dimensions, I gave this a quick try.

I opened the full-size 300dpi artwork image and vectorized the outer shape (shown by the pink outline in the pdf). Then I'm getting decimal measurements of all the sides and tweaking the overall shape very slightly so the measurements conform to standard fractions - for example the top right section shows the rough decimal measurements, I'll move the corner point a little bit to get both those measurements to hit 6" and 6.5" evenly.

The smaller piece is definitely wrong, the artwork file doesn't show the outer shape of that frame.

Again, this whole thing could be wrong - the only way to tell is to measure the actual cab. Figured I'd see how this goes anyway.

rovingmind · « **Reply #88 on:** April 19, 2007, 10:26:35 am »

if you look at the blown up picture

http://www.arcadeguy.com/gameroom/scans/rsec5b.JPG

it looks like the artwork doesn't go completely out to the edges of the cockpit. There seems to be a strip of black painted wood shown that appears to be somewhere between 1 or 2 inches.

Still awesome that we have the artwork to use.

Mayhap artwork setback measurements would be needed also then? top /bottom /left / right for the large panels?

The beam's artwork is inset, that would just be a matter of trimming to fit.

rovingmind · « **Reply #89 on:** April 19, 2007, 10:29:47 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on April 19, 2007, 08:35:48 am

Dammit now I really want to build one of these, but then that leaves me with the standup SW to do something with.

And keeping both wouldn't be an option?

JoyMonkey · « **Reply #90 on:** April 19, 2007, 10:44:24 am »

Yep, the black border around the artwork varies between 1" and 1 1/4" in places. The file I used is pieced together from scans of the full panels, and that 'artless' black portion of the panel is included (other than the smaller inset pieces). It's only like this for the major side pieces though; the frame with the inserts was probably dis-assembled for scanning so the overall shape of the frame isn't in the scan.
Here's a low-res copy of the assembled side-scans (the original version of this file if ginormous!).

SavannahLion · « **Reply #91 on:** April 19, 2007, 11:08:13 am »

Quote from: JoyMonkey on April 19, 2007, 07:35:11 am

I got the gallery updated with the Star Wars artwork files. Lots of stuff to drool over here:
http://artwork.joymonkey.com/index.php?option=com_rsgallery2&Itemid=26&catid=17

Is that the artwork from that drive coming from um... too sleepy to remember the name of that website. $:-\$

ChadTower · « **Reply #92 on:** April 19, 2007, 11:10:10 am »

rovingmind · « **Reply #93 on:** April 19, 2007, 11:31:38 am »

i'm getting all giddy with excitement.

grrr to bad i can't look at joymonkeys gallery yet. Darn work servers and there restrictions

.

ChadTower · « **Reply #94 on:** April 19, 2007, 11:32:48 am »

You'll be able to see thumbnail/reasonably sized versions. You'd have to have a login to be able to download the full sized versions, at least for now, unless he has changed that for this particular artwork.

JoyMonkey · « **Reply #95 on:** April 19, 2007, 11:40:32 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on April 19, 2007, 11:32:48 am

You'll be able to see thumbnail/reasonably sized versions. You'd have to have a login to be able to download the full sized versions, at least for now, unless he has changed that for this particular artwork.

I haven't changed the access restrictions, so guests still only see the low-res water-marked versions of everything. I'm not sure if I'd be able to give guests access to select full size images; but I'll have my elite group of web technicians look into it. Probably won't work and I'll end up breaking everything though.

ChadTower · « **Reply #96 on:** April 19, 2007, 11:42:58 am »

Given the size and the amount of bandwidth that would suck up, I'd just say put them someplace else and let certain people get them. Or let one person outside the group have them and distribute them as they would. I wouldn't recommend trying to be any sort of distributor of this stuff. Too many worms in that can.

rovingmind · « **Reply #97 on:** April 19, 2007, 11:44:09 am »

my work webserver bans anything that is related to games. I'm actually surprised i can get to this forum.

joymonkeys artwork page gets autobanned.

I want to see the low-res but have to wait until i get home, dig my computer out of its various boxes, move some furniture around to set it on, call the cable company, find my router, yada yada yada

(

just because i spent some time at r*mnation.net then introduced my coworker to it and he tried to grab it all, THEN he went on to surfing all flash game sites he could stumble upon. sheesh )

rovingmind · « **Reply #98 on:** April 19, 2007, 12:00:04 pm »

just let everybody drool over the low res

ChadTower · « **Reply #99 on:** April 23, 2007, 10:39:43 am »

Great deal on a cockpit in KC. I would buy that faster than I could do something really fast.

rovingmind · « **Reply #100 on:** April 23, 2007, 11:14:30 am »

i here you.

theres also an upright cab on ebay

link

although he only has 3 feedbacks

thanks to bfauska for showing me how to shorten the links properly

ChadTower · « **Reply #101 on:** April 23, 2007, 11:17:05 am »

The standup actually isn't that hard to get. It's hard to get cheap but if you're willing to pay going rate they're out there to be had much easier than most other vectors.

rovingmind · « **Reply #102 on:** April 23, 2007, 11:43:04 am »

yeah but............

the stand-up isn't the white elephant

SavannahLion · « **Reply #103 on:** April 23, 2007, 01:14:16 pm »

Quote from: rovingmind on April 23, 2007, 11:14:30 am

i here you.

theres also an upright cab on ebay

link

Pretty lame that he would make a point about the side art/paint issue, but not even bother posting a pic of it.

modessitt · « **Reply #104 on:** April 23, 2007, 01:43:57 pm »

Still waiting on an opportunity to pick up the cab...

Ran across these photos showing the difference in artwork between a US released cockpit and an Ireland cockpit and thought y'all might be interested.

In this photo, you can see that the "marquee" behind the seat is back-silkscreened onto glass/plexi in the US version on the left, and is a mylar sticker on the outside in the Irish one on the right:

Don't see much difference here between the US one in the back and the Irish one in front:

This shows the side views. Notice that on the US one on the left, Darth Vader's arm and profile is out-lined in yellow, while the Irish one on the left is out-lined in red:

Although both the Irish on the left and the American on the right suffer from the "snapped back-door" syndrome:

Zeppo · « **Reply #105 on:** April 23, 2007, 02:01:40 pm »

What causes the back doors to break?

SavannahLion · « **Reply #106 on:** April 23, 2007, 02:13:18 pm »

How is the Irish one held together? Biscuit joints? The U.S. looks like it sports screw holes which seems to be holding up better. The Irish version looks like its sagging.

rovingmind · « **Reply #107 on:** April 23, 2007, 02:14:34 pm »

ok just an update on what little progress i'm doing.

The new hard drive is installed in the laptop and it has been resuscitated. I now have to try and remember the name of the free cad program i was using on it since i lost ALL data and programs.

the tote of keyboards and cables is still MIA somewhere in the shop. Removal of all the house stuff from the shop is progressing slowly. Hopefully i will find the tote before the dimensions get posted.

I brought home an olympic sized ping-pong table this weekend. Just love the free stuff. I'm going to use it as a lay-out table for a full size drawing.

rovingmind · « **Reply #108 on:** April 23, 2007, 02:20:41 pm »

Quote from: SavannahLion on April 23, 2007, 02:13:18 pm

How is the Irish one held together? Biscuit joints? The U.S. looks like it sports screw holes which seems to be holding up better. The Irish version looks like its sagging.

Is it just me or does the irish canopy look pieced together also?

Just a thought on the door breakage- Possibly pulling by that slot to move the cabinet? I could see it if the door was MDF.

might be worth (depending on inside clearance) adding a sandwich brace to that spot?

ChadTower · « **Reply #109 on:** April 23, 2007, 02:26:29 pm »

My guess is from the weight of the whole cockpit when someone tried to move it with a hand truck in that spot.

rovingmind · « **Reply #110 on:** April 23, 2007, 02:54:53 pm »

Yeah but they have about 4" wheels on the bottom.

shouldn't need a hand truck.

ChadTower · « **Reply #111 on:** April 23, 2007, 02:55:36 pm »

Stairs/trucks/docks/etc.

rovingmind · « **Reply #112 on:** April 23, 2007, 03:00:04 pm »

uncaring workers

i second that theory.

must build better, stronger, faster, less fuzzy

SavannahLion · « **Reply #113 on:** April 23, 2007, 03:18:36 pm »

Quote from: rovingmind on April 23, 2007, 03:00:04 pm

must build better, stronger, faster, less fuzzy

You have to have Fuzzy's. Otherwise, you have to go through the hassle of pulling out the monitor PCB when it needs repairs.

rovingmind · « **Reply #114 on:** April 23, 2007, 03:41:49 pm »

Quote from: SavannahLion on April 23, 2007, 03:18:36 pm

Quote from: rovingmind on April 23, 2007, 03:00:04 pm
must build better, stronger, faster, less fuzzy

You have to have Fuzzy's. Otherwise, you have to go through the hassle of pulling out the monitor PCB when it needs repairs.

modified quote from movie regarding experiment 626 (lilo and stitch)

followed by stitch saying " i like fuzzy "

SavannahLion · « **Reply #115 on:** April 23, 2007, 04:06:42 pm »

Quote from: rovingmind on April 23, 2007, 03:41:49 pm

Quote from: SavannahLion on April 23, 2007, 03:18:36 pm
Quote from: rovingmind on April 23, 2007, 03:00:04 pm
must build better, stronger, faster, less fuzzy

You have to have Fuzzy's. Otherwise, you have to go through the hassle of pulling out the monitor PCB when it needs repairs.

modified quote from movie regarding experiment 626 (lilo and stitch)

followed by stitch saying " i like fuzzy "

I thought maybe it had something to do with H. Beam Piper.

JoyMonkey · « **Reply #116 on:** April 23, 2007, 04:13:57 pm »

I've played the Irish version (at Mosney Atari Center and Curacloe beach arcade) and the American one (at Funspot, NH) and can confirm that they are both indeed awesome. The Irish one was much more awesomer though; probably because I was five and it was my lifelong ambition to be either an x-wing pilot or a fireman, or both.

rovingmind · « **Reply #117 on:** April 23, 2007, 04:42:52 pm »

i wanted darth vaders tie fighter

if i knew how to program i would make an empire attack version to fly around shooting the x-wings

edit*

or the millenium falcon

modessitt · « **Reply #118 on:** April 23, 2007, 06:41:18 pm »

Glad everyone is enjoying those pics like I thought they would...

The Irish one seems to have had a harder life, with cabinet wear and scrapes evident on the lower back.

I am most interested in the "marquee" as the one on the US version is much more attractive.....

Also, I wonder if the yellow/red thing is a US/Europe thing, or if it was for the left/right as we're seeing opposite sides here....

rovingmind · « **Reply #119 on:** April 23, 2007, 07:02:02 pm »

Quote from: SavannahLion on April 23, 2007, 04:06:42 pm

You have to have Fuzzy's. Otherwise, you have to go through the hassle of pulling out the monitor PCB when it needs repairs.

I thought maybe it had something to do with H. Beam Piper.

now i'm actually going to have to read his work. I don't remember it but its on archive.org


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