Somebody dimensioned their star wars cockpit

[ChadTower]

Start the new thread.  Make it blinking neon orange with an air raid siren.  Make sure this gets some attention.

[rovingmind]

If you don't mind post them on flickr in as high a resolution as possible as well, that way we're not limited by any file size

The more dimensions the better I always say.  That way their is less need for fudgeing or error.

If you can get dimensions of the base box that would be great.

I can use standard or metric

If your going to take measurements in standard I use feet-inches-sixteenths with the added on phrase of "and a bit" to cover half a sixteenth

1-6-8 would be 1' 6" 8/16 (used to do some roof truss design and manufacturing)

whichever method is easiest for you would be fine.

[saint]

Space is available if anything needs hosting

[polaris]

new thread , wiki , main site under cabinet plans, a full scale example delivered to my house, all good

[shorthair]

You might try peter hirschberg:

http://www.peterhirschberg.com/arcade/gameroom.htm

[rovingmind]

I havn't attempted contacting him yet although he has a completely mesmerizing arcade.  I so want to go there and waste quarters by the bucketful. 

I've been trying to contact people who have one that needs repair or have one that is not in an arcade setting.   I figured they would have the best chance of being able to get dimensions.

You might try peter hirschberg:

http://www.peterhirschberg.com/arcade/gameroom.htm

[rovingmind]

Photos wanted in as high a resolution as possible


straight on photo of the two parts that make up the side individually with a yardstick either beside them or laying on them, it doesn't matter if the stick is covering the artwork because this is for dimensioning,

(although the more photos of the artwork the better)


same with the front and back of side of the canopy piece

same with the front side of the panel under the bezel,

photo of the coindoor side panel with its dimensions from the edge.

         If we can get the panel measurements already discussed we can get a working set of plans for this made up for all of us to use. 

[CheffoJeffo]

Props again to modessit -- that's a nice thing to do!

 

[rovingmind]

I wouldn't be able to deliver a full scale example to your house but i can send you a finished file in the end to print out cutting templates with.

For my own purposes my plan is to have a printable cutting template for the panels to cut out of luan, to use as a guide for my router

new thread , wiki , main site under cabinet plans, a full scale example delivered to my house, all good

[rovingmind]

Props again to modessit -- that's a nice thing to do!

 

 

[polaris]

I wouldn't be able to deliver a full scale example to your house

why not, how much effort have you put in to seeing wether you could , you havent even asked where i live?

never get one in my little british house anyway not after mine (when i build it) and the obligatory pink cab (yes i have a daughter) but cheers and good luck with it.

[rovingmind]

because, any that i build are all MINE ... mwuh hah hah hah haaaaa,
yeah, pink cab, i'm going to have to do that too. although maybe a light shade of purple
daughter is 6 months old and just fascinated with computers and pocoyo

I wouldn't be able to deliver a full scale example to your house

why not, how much effort have you put in to seeing wether you could , you havent even asked where i live?

never get one in my little british house anyway not after mine (when i build it) and the obligatory pink cab (yes i have a daughter) but cheers and good luck with it.

[SavannahLion]

You might try peter hirschberg:

http://www.peterhirschberg.com/arcade/gameroom.htm

Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, let me suck your  and call me Daisy. That's in his house?!   

[shorthair]

Holy ---Cleveland steamer---, let me suck your  and call me Daisy. That's in his house?!   

Dude, check these out. HG even did a show on one of em:

http://www.jeffsgames.com/links.htm

[ChadTower]

Holy ---Cleveland steamer---, let me suck your  and call me Daisy.

 

[rovingmind]

the epitome of retro arcade, or just way overboard. 

I will be happy with 3.


( of course i say that now, and have an idea in mind for a fourth.... I could mock up a foam mold and make a one off version of the first coin-op video arcade machine..........)

[rovingmind]

the epitome of retro arcade, or just way overboard. 

I will be happy with 3.


( of course i say that now, and have an idea in mind for a fourth.... I could mock up a foam mold and make a one off version of the first coin-op video arcade machine..........)

http://www.designhappy.com/trivia%202001/Slide%20Pages/Game%201%20a.htm

[SithMaster]

http://andysarcade.de/data/picseries/sw_restore/overview.html  have you asked him.

[rovingmind]

http://andysarcade.de/data/picseries/sw_restore/overview.html  have you asked him.

yep, i posted his link earlier.   I havn't heard back from him.  According to his website his is still in pieces awaiting time to do the restore, although the picture of his arcade shows one in use.

[rovingmind]

After attempting a couple of times to stitch arcadeguys pictures together on my computer, i had to give up because of gynormous files sizes and scaling issues.  (laptop died and i don't have adobe photoshop on my work computer with a bulk percentage scaling plug-in)

I just spent the morning playing with tape scissors and 4x6 printouts of his scans and discovered why nobody has made repro artwork from them yet.  They are missing sections.

What this boils down to is:  I can reference the side panels from the pasted pic but not the 3-layer canopy beam. 

I have to spend the next week moving furniture and goods into our new house and painting and other fun stuff.  Hopefully i can find my engineering scale in the process.

[horseboy]

Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, let me suck your  and call me Daisy.

SavannahLion, you seem to really be bucking to take ChrisG's place as my sig quote. 

[SavannahLion]

I could mock up a foam mold and make a one off version of the first coin-op video arcade machine..........)

How funny, I gave that idea some serious thought not too long ago. I dropped the idea because while it's reasonably easy to form some fiberglass, or even better, give it a modern look with carbon fiber (my brother used to rebuild auto bodies), I simply don't have the artistic talent to carve a foam mold without detailed dimensions to work off of. Maybe once I get the garage cleaned out and the raw materials needed for the process, I might bring the idea alive again.

I was even considering a really retro look by painting it in a metallic green that was so prevalent during the 70's.

[rovingmind]

I would cheat and get my father-in law involved

if you've seen a factory ram-air hood scoop on a 2004/2005 dodge, or 80% of the product line sold under the brand name GOOD HOOD for sport trucks you've seen his work

he's also responsible for most of the molds libbey glass used in the late 60's early 70's

[NickS]

Yes i'm new, Yes i've searched this forum.  No i have not found any link to drawings of a starwars cockpit.

I've collected the wonderful side scans from the unclean caga.  I've printed out the original manual along with grabbing any photo of the cockpit i've come across while surfing.  I have my bezel and cpo, and have been drooling over the repro control yoke thats in design and presale.  I finally have a garage to work in.

Has anybody drawn up plans for this wondrous thing? 

I would, but i have no access to an original and havn't seen one in person for years.
I can piece together the sideart scans as reference using the printed cabinet length and height, but need dimensions on the internal woodwork to make accurate Cad drawings.

 I dont want to fudge it.

This is great project you are attempting and I wish you success with it. I would love to build one myself. I always save as many pictures of them I find on the net. There have been a few restorations documented and sometimes the ones sold on ebay have plenty of pitures. There is one ebay at the moment with a few pictures.

Regarding the artwork. There have been 3 different groups who have produced it. Classicarcadegrafix until they closed. Mamemarquees now produces them and has them on their website.

http://www.mamemarquees.com/starwars-cockpit-sideart-p-402.html

These would probably both have used the same art files. Which probably originated from http://www.arcadecollecting.com/caga/unclean/ and have been worked on to improve them.

Archer McLean here in UK is working on a silk screened run based on scans of mint NOS artwork and he has been working on it for a couple of years but he has his own equipment and his work is superb. He has also successfully reproduced the curved perspex at the back of the cockpit. He has posted a couple of restoration guides for the cockpit but I have not been able to find them when I just checked. He also talked about it being quite straight forward to repro the whole cabinet.  He is a very nice guy and if he has the time I am sure he would like to help. PM me for his email if you want it. He often posts on RGVAC and UKVAC which may also be useful sources of help for you. The VAPS site also has a long list of owners of Star Wars cockpits which may also be of help.

Scott from atarigames.com may have the orginal art files as he acquired a lot of atari items when they closed. I know he recently supplied the original art files for a repro run of the Star Wars upright side art. He may also be able to be of some help.

I have often hoped to a damaged cockpit avaliable cheaply to take apart and use as a template and although they come up from time to time I have not been able to do so.

Next to Star Wars I have also wanted to build an exact Dragons Lair. A couple a years ago I bought set of templates the cab for about $50 and they were superb. There is a discusion of it here http://www.dragonslairfans.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=224.
I have often hoped someone would produce similar templates for a cockpit as i know I would certainly buy a set. I wondered if that if you are successful in this project, is it something you might be interested in?. If a few of us put in some money we may be able to buy a cheap damaged cockpit and make templates from that. Just an idea, a lot of work but great to have.

Good Luck and I hope you are successful.

[rovingmind]

I havn't compared the scans from the caga to arcadeguys yet since both image sets came from don's cab but i'm going to have to do that now.  At don's site (arcadeguy.com) the images do not stitch together completely. 

( i did the ole print and tape this morning and ended up with a botchy cockpit picture about 2' by 3', definitley a fun timewaster at work)

I've seen the artwork reprints for sale but at the moment (buying a house and all the fixins that entails) i dont have any cash to put toward that until there is something to put it on.

There is a fellow in europe with one dissassembled already but i havn't been able to get ahold of him.

Everybody putting money in to purchase a cockpit to carefully dissassemble and trace sounds like a great plan but, once again at the moment my money is going toward paint and carpet and kitchen.  All i would be able to offer is time to dissassemble it and make the patterns.

If anybody else thinks this would be a better idea i'm all for it and have both tools and shopspace.

I do plan on making patterns out of 1/4" luan for myself once i can get an accurate Cad plan made.  Anybody that wants them will be welcome to the cad files once they are complete to print out their own cutsheets.

My goal for this part of the project is to get both plans, and pattern sheets available.
Since i have to ask for help on this i figured it was only fair to put them out for everybody to use.

(my final goal is to have my own cabinet)

[rovingmind]

This Archer McLean?

http://www.dadgum.com/halcyon/BOOK/MACLEAN.HTM

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Archer McLean here in UK is working on a silk screened run based on scans of mint NOS artwork and he has been working on it for a couple of years but he has his own equipment and his work is superb. He has also successfully reproduced the curved perspex at the back of the cockpit.
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[NickS]

This Archer McLean?

http://www.dadgum.com/halcyon/BOOK/MACLEAN.HTM

Archer McLean here in UK is working on a silk screened run based on scans of mint NOS artwork and he has been working on it for a couple of years but he has his own equipment and his work is superb. He has also successfully reproduced the curved perspex at the back of the cockpit.
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Thats the one. He used to have around 150 games in his collection and several cockpits which he has taken apart and rebuilt.

One thing I forgot to mention. Classicardegrafix recently put their art collection up for sale and a few of us here clubbed together to buy the files. Although I do not have my set yet I am sure I can get you a copy of the files they used in time for your project. It would be the same set that mamemarquees use. Let me know if you are interested.

[rovingmind]

One thing I forgot to mention. Classicardegrafix recently put their art collection up for sale and a few of us here clubbed together to buy the files. Although I do have my set yet I am sure I can get you a copy of the files they used in time for your project. It would be the same set that mamemarquees use. Let me know if you are interested.

I saw where they had sold the collection but havn't been on this forum long enough to have been a part of it.
I am definitely interested in the files.
Is it to late to be part of that club?

[SavannahLion]

One thing I forgot to mention. Classicardegrafix recently put their art collection up for sale and a few of us here clubbed together to buy the files. Although I do have my set yet I am sure I can get you a copy of the files they used in time for your project. It would be the same set that mamemarquees use. Let me know if you are interested.

I saw where they had sold the collection but havn't been on this forum long enough to have been a part of it.
I am definitely interested in the files.
Is it to late to be part of that club?

Ask in this thread Fozzy is the ringleader
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=62823.0

I'm on the U.S. circuit so I'm still waiting for contact. So actually getting the data might take a while because of so many people involved and the physical movement of the drives. Just as well, I haven't purchased the needed drive yet.

[modessitt]

Okay, had to deliver a couple pinballs to San Antonio today, and when you get a couple hours to think about stuff.....

I'm going to manipulate the repair schedule to get my boss to let me pick the thing up from the warehouse on a Thursday or Friday, afew weeks from now.  This will allow me to stay after work to do a partial disassemble (take off seat, speaker grills, etc.) and take some detailed pics.  Then I can print out photos at home and bring them back up on the weekend to measure and write notes on the pictures and get it put back together before my boss comes in on Monday.  After all that, I can start editing the pics to show the measurments.

Since the bottom is the only constant straight edge throughout, I plan on basing almost all reference point measurements from the bottom cabinet edge, not the floor.  I will take as-straight-on-as-possible pics of each side, full back, full front, full top, and (hopefully) full bottom view.  I will also take multiple close up pics of as many things that I can get to without breaking it apart with a hammer, including any inside bracing or cross members I can access.

I will post High-Res pics offsite with a link in the thread, as well as pics adjusted to fit here for those who don't need high-res pics to get their info from.  It has been suggested to place a yardstick or some such item in the pick for some to use as a scale reference.  I may create a separate set of select pics with an overlying grid with a set scale for proper scaling.  If my measurements are accurate enough, this might not be needed, but it could prove crucial to some to accurately plot any curves.

I will post here when I get the game in the shop, then start the new thread within a week when I get the pics ready.

Now..... quit drooling on your keyboard......  

[rovingmind]

 

I missed the buy-in

[rovingmind]

You sir are a gentleman and an arcade fanatic.

I humbly await pictures.

Now i need to go get a 5 gallon drool bucket.

By the time the pictures are posted i should have all the house stuff moved and have the workspace in my new shop setup ready too go.

Okay, had to deliver a couple pinballs to San Antonio today, and when you get a couple hours to think about stuff.....

I'm going to manipulate the repair schedule to get my boss to let me pick the thing up from the warehouse on a Thursday or Friday, afew weeks from now.  This will allow me to stay after work to do a partial disassemble (take off seat, speaker grills, etc.) and take some detailed pics.  Then I can print out photos at home and bring them back up on the weekend to measure and write notes on the pictures and get it put back together before my boss comes in on Monday.  After all that, I can start editing the pics to show the measurments.

Since the bottom is the only constant straight edge throughout, I plan on basing almost all reference point measurements from the bottom cabinet edge, not the floor.  I will take as-straight-on-as-possible pics of each side, full back, full front, full top, and (hopefully) full bottom view.  I will also take multiple close up pics of as many things that I can get to without breaking it apart with a hammer, including any inside bracing or cross members I can access.

I will post High-Res pics offsite with a link in the thread, as well as pics adjusted to fit here for those who don't need high-res pics to get their info from.  It has been suggested to place a yardstick or some such item in the pick for some to use as a scale reference.  I may create a separate set of select pics with an overlying grid with a set scale for proper scaling.  If my measurements are accurate enough, this might not be needed, but it could prove crucial to some to accurately plot any curves.

I will post here when I get the game in the shop, then start the new thread within a week when I get the pics ready.

Now..... quit drooling on your keyboard......  

[modessitt]

So long as I get a copy of the finished plans.      Who knows?  Maybe I'll even find someone who can cut panels for me someday!

[rovingmind]

nc code file to be handed to somebody with a cnc router........

[ChadTower]

That's a lot of effort.  Thank you for your time, we appreciate it.  I will be extremely interested in the results.

I don't have my fileset yet either but I was also in on the initial group buy of the artwork.  If the cockpit stuff in there is usable I can help out with that.

[rovingmind]

well i've been playing with mame for 4 years now and that particular machine is what got me into it in the first place.

Now i have the space to actually work on projects and that is my white elephant.  I havn't even had the space for a regular arcade project before.  I have the wifes OK as long as the house stuff is taken care of so its game on.

I'm going to do  this a cocktail and a duel standup not in that particular order.  I have lots of time during the day at work since i have lots of time to work on the starwars cab files even if i'm not going to be building it right away. 

I'll probably build the cocktail first.

as for the cnc file i don't have the machine but you guys that are interested in them should check out cnczone

I could wait for somebody else to offer the plans but my hands are getting itchy.  I'm not a programmer so i figure i could at least help out everybody else who wants one.  Once plans get drawn up the hard part is done.  Might as well return something to the people who make it possible for me to play.

That's a lot of effort.  Thank you for your time, we appreciate it.  I will be extremely interested in the results.

I don't have my fileset yet either but I was also in on the initial group buy of the artwork.  If the cockpit stuff in there is usable I can help out with that.

[rovingmind]

yayyy
my drafting tools have been found

[SavannahLion]

I missed the buy-in

Sorry, I didn't spot that last posting.

[Zeppo]

The ebay auction sold for $2700 and my highest bid was only $1600.

Good luck on getting yours made!

[rovingmind]

well zeppo, you can always make your own.

wait for the plans and take the dxf file to somebody with a cnc router.

I havn't added it up but i'm thinking it will take about 5 4x8 sheets to make this cab maybe 6.

The only part i don't have any ideas on is the tinted canopy.  I havn't looked into that yet.  There was a mention earlier about a fellow who had arranged to have some manufactured but he's in the UK.  I'll look into that when the time comes.  Maybe i'll just make it myself.  Heat and bend tinted plexi with a mold.