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Somebody dimensioned their star wars cockpit
« on: April 07, 2007, 01:05:53 pm »
Yes i'm new, Yes i've searched this forum.  No i have not found any link to drawings of a starwars cockpit.

I've collected the wonderful side scans from the unclean caga.  I've printed out the original manual along with grabbing any photo of the cockpit i've come across while surfing.  I have my bezel and cpo, and have been drooling over the repro control yoke thats in design and presale.  I finally have a garage to work in.

Has anybody drawn up plans for this wondrous thing? 

I would, but i have no access to an original and havn't seen one in person for years.
I can piece together the sideart scans as reference using the printed cabinet length and height, but need dimensions on the internal woodwork to make accurate Cad drawings.

 I dont want to fudge it.
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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2007, 01:15:28 pm »
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seen these, click on models
is the downloadable one of use for getting measurements in a cad program, ive no idea i cant use those programs but you may know
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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2007, 01:25:06 pm »
I could use it for conceptual views.  I have downloaded those models and the guy who modeled them did an excellent job.

For actual construction no.  I need physical dimensions.  He did the same thing i would have to make that model.  take a picture and build a 3d model off of it in a 3d modeling program.  Unfortunately it doesn't give the framework.
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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2007, 01:37:23 pm »
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assuming youve seen it but just in case
see if the winner can help :)
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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2007, 01:45:03 pm »
I hadn't seen that one yet, thank you for the link.

The reason i posted on here is because i've seen a couple of the cabs in other peoples pictures of their home arcades or restoration work.   

Unfortunately most of the pictures were concerned with showing the graphics and not details of the cabinet.
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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2007, 11:56:14 am »
How about some Highres photos straight on with a yardstick for reference?

Anyone?

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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2007, 12:11:22 pm »
I am not aware of anybody here who HAS a SW cockpit, so you may well be shouting at the wall.

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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2007, 12:15:48 pm »

There are at least a couple guys who do... but this is a tall order, really.  You'd think at some point someone would have done this in the past.

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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2007, 12:19:23 pm »
If only I lived in Texas and had some expendable dough...ah...my "white elephant"...>sigh<

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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2007, 12:25:29 pm »
How about some Highres photos straight on with a yardstick for reference?

Anyone?




Better yet how about some highres photos with a large transparent grid overlaying the entire cab? That shouldn't be a problem, right?


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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2007, 12:26:32 pm »

How about we swap the transparent grid with a 21 year old redhead stripper?

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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2007, 12:40:25 pm »
We would have to have an accurate chart of her dimensions for this to be very useful.  >:D


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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2007, 12:42:11 pm »

I can fill in optimal numbers with my imagination.

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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2007, 12:53:05 pm »
as long as the cuffs match i'm ok with the redhead
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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2007, 12:56:08 pm »
Sorry to be off topic but can you use a U360 joystick to play starwars?  I am guessing in analog mode?

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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2007, 12:59:12 pm »
I stumbled across one fellow from I believe denmark who had one in a state of dissassembly and had posted photos, but i havn't heard from him and he probably has it back together by now.  

This is my white elephant and if i'm going to take the time to do the cabinet i want it to be as right as possible.

Unfortunately some of the sides end up being three layers thick where they attach.  (the canopy cover)

I want the base cabinet to be as close as possible to the original from the outside.

Not counting a small builders plaque and a pair of usb ports.



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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2007, 01:00:34 pm »
Beets me, at the moment i use a USB Saitech Cyborg
(older model first usb without the 3d rotation option but still has the fully customizable handle)

Sorry to be off topic but can you use a U360 joystick to play starwars?  I am guessing in analog mode?

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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2007, 01:04:07 pm »


Is the cockpit artwork out there?  That multilayered design would make it really hard to scan.

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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2007, 01:07:56 pm »
yep but its unclean, needs stitched back together, the yoke overlay is there also, the only thing i havn't been able to find artwork wise to work with is the ones that are on the bezel itself. 
I've found some very low-res photos that could be used to work from but they would be poor quality.

I have a bezel but the artwork was removed from it, and my controlpanel has a decent one on it already.  With Ram Controls reproduction yoke coming out soon, ( have to wait for christmas to get one) the cabinet itself is the stopping point.
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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2007, 01:10:05 pm »
http://www.arcadecollecting.com/caga/

in the unclean artwork section

Awesome job done on that.  They did it with an extremely mint machine.
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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2007, 01:17:05 pm »
http://andysarcade.de/projects_sw.html

this is the fellow with one in pieces
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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2007, 01:19:21 pm »

Cool.  He can probably help you out if he's so inclined.  I have an upright that's going to get the same treatment in the fall.

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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2007, 01:32:48 pm »
well his disassembly pics are from 2004 and i havn't heard back from him yet.  They are probably buried or already finished. 

Lucky bugger on the upright


Cool.  He can probably help you out if he's so inclined.  I have an upright that's going to get the same treatment in the fall.
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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2007, 04:35:02 pm »
Would somebody please measure the insets of the panels around (what i'm going to call for clarity) the circumferance?

Then i could fire up the Cad and start dimensioning with what i have for reference photos.
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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2007, 05:01:46 pm »
I absolutely LOVED that sit down version... at my arcade, they had the volume cranked so loud you could hear R2D2's chirps across the rooms.  Maybe someday I'll consider doing a dedicated cabinet like this one.  I do hope you'll post pictures when you get it done.

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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2007, 05:43:26 pm »
http://arcadeguy.com

This fellow is the gentleman who took the time to scan his cabinet for the artwork.
I'm going to attempt to stitch his photos together. 

Good lord i hope my machine can handle the task.  They are full-size. 



Is the cockpit artwork out there?  That multilayered design would make it really hard to scan.
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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2007, 11:45:05 pm »
Don says hi, hes currently working on re-scanning his cockpit

http://arcadeguy.com

This fellow is the gentleman who took the time to scan his cabinet for the artwork.
I'm going to attempt to stitch his photos together. 

Good lord i hope my machine can handle the task.  They are full-size. 



Is the cockpit artwork out there?  That multilayered design would make it really hard to scan.
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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2007, 11:09:47 am »
"Rogue leader.......I'm currently tailing a cockpit..........hold your breath and watch your scanner...........

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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2007, 11:50:52 am »
"Rogue leader.......I'm currently tailing a cockpit..........hold your breath and watch your scanner...........


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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2007, 11:52:14 am »

I'm surprised I've never seen a MultiStarWars cab... sure, two of the flight games are vectors and one is a raster, but you see plenty of people playing vector games on a raster.

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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2007, 12:19:40 pm »
The only one I saw was online as an upright
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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2007, 02:53:24 pm »
Well, if I won the auction, then I would be happy to help out with whatever pictures or measurements you need.
This cab is located about 20 miles from me, so I could go pick it up, but I don't think I'll be able to afford it.
It will probably go for about $1500 or so.
If not lots more.
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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2007, 03:13:55 pm »
It will probably go for about $1500 or so.

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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2007, 03:28:29 pm »
you guys get points for the star wars quotes.
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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2007, 03:39:49 pm »
the inability to afford an original is why i've been collecting parts and reference photos.
*sigh*

Good luck to you


Well, if I won the auction, then I would be happy to help out with whatever pictures or measurements you need.
This cab is located about 20 miles from me, so I could go pick it up, but I don't think I'll be able to afford it.
It will probably go for about $1500 or so.
If not lots more.

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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2007, 01:17:42 am »
I will be doing a major repair job on a Star Wars Cockpit (it's beautiful, too) that a customer owns.  He had about 40 games in a warehouse that I do about 4 every couple weeks and take them to his software company's breakroom.

Don't know how long I'll have the game - and I won't be able to take it apart - but I might be able to take some pics and overlay measurements on them.  You can check out the Joust cocktail pics I've done to see how I lay out the measurements.

Not sure of the timeframe, but will be less than a month before I get it in the shop.  Doing a Tempest, Tron, Spyhunter, and Space Panic for him at the moment.  They're hurt bad.

So - it'll take a few weeks but it'll happen.  I'll try inside pics and measurements, too, if I can.  Pics are easy.  Measuring, then editing photos takes a while.
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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2007, 09:09:31 am »

So just get really good pics, take the measurements, and let someone else do the editing and the rest of it.

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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2007, 09:50:42 am »
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You are my hero...I've been trying to get measurements of this cab forever.  If it is not too much to ask...as the cab has many angles, when you take the measurements, please measure the distance to each point on the cab from a reference corner so the angles will be correct (I'm assuming you may not have a protractor to measure each angle).  This would be as opposed to just measuring the perimeter distances, width, and length.  Thank you so much for this future effort.

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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #38 on: April 11, 2007, 11:18:26 am »
The majority of the outer panels are flat pieces and from interior shots they are not routed into the large side panels.  If the outside edges were measured and written on a photo of that panel along with the amount each corner was inset from the outer edge, plans for the entire cabinet could be drawn up accurately with autocad without dissassembly the cabinet.

the only panel that would need detailed measurement and parts removed to do so would be the one that the bezel goes over, along with its depth from the cockpit edge.

The seats are just plain rectangles to measure and insets would be fine for that.  All the internal braces could be figured after the panels were drawn in.

If you were able to get these measurements, I can start making an actual cab plan in autocad.

The bevel angles for the flat panels can all be calculated. 

That would leave just the plexiglass as the hard part to get right.

The only part that I would like to see photographed individually and measured is the inside of the canopy rib, but that could be calculated from its contact with the other panels if the cabinet isn't getting taken that far apart.

Any help you are able to give will be greatly appreciated and the drawings will get posted to Jakobuds site if he wants them, or mine for free download.


I will be doing a major repair job on a Star Wars Cockpit (it's beautiful, too) that a customer owns.  He had about 40 games in a warehouse that I do about 4 every couple weeks and take them to his software company's breakroom.

Don't know how long I'll have the game - and I won't be able to take it apart - but I might be able to take some pics and overlay measurements on them.  You can check out the Joust cocktail pics I've done to see how I lay out the measurements.

Not sure of the timeframe, but will be less than a month before I get it in the shop.  Doing a Tempest, Tron, Spyhunter, and Space Panic for him at the moment.  They're hurt bad.

So - it'll take a few weeks but it'll happen.  I'll try inside pics and measurements, too, if I can.  Pics are easy.  Measuring, then editing photos takes a while.
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Re: Yet another plea for somebody to dimension their star wars cockpit
« Reply #39 on: April 11, 2007, 03:11:58 pm »
No prob.  I usually do refernce measurements (so many inches down from this spot, then 90 degress out this many inches to the point needed) so people can get as accurate a measurement as they can.  I assume you want these in standard and not metric?

As I will have to pull the monitor as part of the repair (it's toasted) I will have plenty of access behind the bezel.  What about behind/under the seat and such?  As well as wheel placement and spacing from the floor and such.  As I pointed out in the Joust Cocktail thread that I've supplied pictures and measurements for, I tend to to give more information than originally asked (very detailed) only because, if I've had to go to all the trouble to get the game where I can measure one thing that was asked for, I might as well measure everything so I won't have to pull it out again.

I'll only have the cab for a week or so, and hope to start posting pics the day after I get it so that y'all can ask for more details of specific areas while I still have it.  When I'm ready to start posting pics, should I just add them to this already-getting-long thread, or should I start a new thread entitled "Star Wars Cockpit Measurements!!!!" ?
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