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Glaine:
I got to play with a friends laptop with ubutnu on it yesterday shortly after posting here.
I have to say that the OS looks very sharp, especially all of the cool effects you can do to your desktop, like rotating between desktops as a big 3d cube (which sounds a lot like vista's new cue-card tab sorting "idea").
I've also noticed that packages I downloaded in prep to install were much smaller than their windows counterparts - zsnes (snes emu), fceu (nes emu), dosemu, etc were all way under a meg. I don't understand how files can get that much smaller by changing OS, but thats really cool.
--- Quote from: shmokes on March 28, 2007, 07:25:30 pm ---As far as Glain's problem, I don't know what that problem is, but it shouldn't have to do with making the CD bootable. The distributions are already in ISO form, so when you burn that to a CD it should already make it bootable. You don't have to tell your burning software to do anything special.
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I think it could be possible to mess up the disk creation if someone just drag-and-drop burned the iso image, so it was an OK assumption that I might have burned it wrong. But I made copies both by mounting the disk in daemon tools and then copying that fake disk, and by telling my burner to burn a copy from the image, both of which boot up to the first screen load screen fine, but then turd out somewhere in the ubuntu boot.
--- Quote from: USSEnterprise on March 29, 2007, 12:41:19 pm ---Glaine, the only thing I can think of is that you computers may not be up to spec. IIRC, Ubuntu 6.06 and up need a lot of RAM and HDD space
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Looking at my home PC stats, it's 512 MB ram with 114 GB hard drive free. A quick search seems to show that 6.10 requires somewhere around 3 or 4 gb hd, 256 mb ram, so thats fine too.
Next Q - anyone had trouble with windows not putting ubuntu in the boot menu? I've heard many say yes and many saying no.
Answer: Nevermind, yahoo search to the rescue...
https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/partitions-booting.html
Also, while many video cards are supported, does anyone how to get to use extra video card functions like s-video plugs? I have to use the program that comes with the video card to do that. I guess if you're lucky, the company has a linux tool otherwise your sunk?
Pics for people who haven't seen this stuff before:
Ubuntu:
http://exe.gotfrag.com/files/upload/galleryimage_14779_f.jpg
Kubuntu:
http://exe.gotfrag.com/files/upload/galleryimage_14778_f.jpg
shmokes:
512 should be plenty. IIRC you need like 384 or something. Maybe less.
boykster:
Just to clear something up...those pics of ubuntu are cool, BUT ubuntu itself doesn't render the desktop. Linux uses a sub-system called a window manager when you boot into a graphical environment. The first pic is a window manager called Gnome, the second pic is of KDE. You can run Gnome or KDE on pretty much any flavor of linux. I run Gnome on my Fedora boxes...it's very nice.
I have nothing against Ubuntu, it seems to be the flavor of the month lately as far as linux distros go. I also have lots of colleagues who use freeBSD for webservers. BSD is related to linux, but is in a seperate development tree.
As far as why distros for emulators would be smaller on a *nix than on windows. I dunno for sure, but windows distribution packages tend to be massively bloated compared to what they install. Also, windows libraries (dll's and such) are generally included in distributions like those, whereas on a linux distro, they won't be and you'll be required to install them (or have them installed) already.
Good luck!
WTB:
I (again) recently thought to try linux. In the last 6 months I've installed ubuntu on every machine that I own. As a windows user, the switch was incredibly easy. I grew up with a command line and although things have certainly changed a lot, the help is there in the forums. I'm now running a triple boot system with two windows XP installs and ubuntu 6.10. It seems that the next ubuntu release comes with a better (!) driver manager. It worked flawlessly out of the box. Detected everything.
The easiest way with ubuntu is to install the windows systems first, (XP, Vista etc) then install ubuntu last. Ubuntu with Beryl installed (a window manager that makes the cool eyecandy) is something to behold. Its just a few clicks away using the native package manager and makes Vista look just plain silly. At this point my office computer, my laptop and my home workstation all use ubuntu. The only criticism I have is that Beryl (eyecandy) doesn't support multiple monitors. I now only use windows at work or to play Source games. :laugh:
I'm not very familiar with other distros, but linux in general has served me well in the past. Ubuntu is very easy for an intelligent windows user willing to put the time in. My current laptop (a 500mhz beast) runs WAAAAAAYYY faster with a stripped-down ubuntu than a stripped down windows install. I don't even notice that the laptop weighs 200lbs, everything is so gracefull...
HaRuMaN:
--- Quote from: Glaine on March 29, 2007, 12:46:32 pm ---
I think it could be possible to mess up the disk creation if someone just drag-and-drop burned the iso image, so it was an OK assumption that I might have burned it wrong. But I made copies both by mounting the disk in daemon tools and then copying that fake disk, and by telling my burner to burn a copy from the image, both of which boot up to the first screen load screen fine, but then turd out somewhere in the ubuntu boot.
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Sounds like you have a flaky CD drive. (problems reading, not necessarily burning). This problem happened to me, too. I got a new cd/dvd drive, installed it, and everything worked fine after that.
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