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Crowquill:

--- Quote from: pointdablame on March 27, 2007, 09:32:35 pm ---I agree with MKChamp, but I have to say, calling R.Belmont out on "being an ass" is not going to help.  If he is rude, he's going to be rude.  If he doesn't like BYOAC, folks here ganging up on him and yelling are not likely to help.  This is how it goes though.. one person steps up and no one backs down and then we create this perceived "feud."  It's asinine if you ask me.

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Agreed. The problem I see is that when a threat is made, the immediate response is rarely rational. I was pretty fired up when I posted this morning. The "racial slur" comment and stating directly that he was a jerk were a bit over-the-top. He may have been fired up and responding irrationally to the deleted post. Maybe he's just looking to pick a fight with this one response. Maybe he's looking to pick a fight with ALL of his responses. We'll never know.

Coincidentally when I was looking some stuff up on MAWS earlier I saw R.Belmont's name at least a half-dozen times.

BTW, does anyone else find it ironic to get a "can't we all just get along" post from "pointdablame"? ;D
pointdablame:

--- Quote from: Crowquill on March 28, 2007, 01:01:58 am ---
--- Quote from: pointdablame on March 27, 2007, 09:32:35 pm ---I agree with MKChamp, but I have to say, calling R.Belmont out on "being an ass" is not going to help.  If he is rude, he's going to be rude.  If he doesn't like BYOAC, folks here ganging up on him and yelling are not likely to help.  This is how it goes though.. one person steps up and no one backs down and then we create this perceived "feud."  It's asinine if you ask me.

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Agreed. The problem I see is that when a threat is made, the immediate response is rarely rational. I was pretty fired up when I posted this morning. The "racial slur" comment and stating directly that he was a jerk were a bit over-the-top. He may have been fired up and responding irrationally to the deleted post. Maybe he's just looking to pick a fight with this one response. Maybe he's looking to pick a fight with ALL of his responses. We'll never know.

Coincidentally when I was looking some stuff up on MAWS earlier I saw R.Belmont's name at least a half-dozen times.

BTW, does anyone else find it ironic to get a "can't we all just get along" post from "pointdablame"? ;D

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You seem to have realized it, but just to be clear... my comments were not directly pointed to you or anyone else.  I was simply making the point that arguing with someone who already doesn't "like you" (for whatever reason) will rarely improve the situation.

If R.Belmont doesn't like "us" (BYOAC), then members of the community calling him a doody head or whatever the case may be is likely to change his feelings.

As for my name, I guess I'm pointing blame at those who think it's smart to "poke the beast" heh  :cheers:
DrewKaree:

--- Quote from: TheBoz on March 28, 2007, 12:44:03 am ---
BTW, who's Saint?  ;D


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I heard his real name is Dennis Dowling :dunno




















 :laugh2: :cheers:
Tiger-Heli:
Okay, I'm marshall on MW forums, so I can tell you what happend.

Leezer updated hi-score.dat to MAME 112u2 or so.  He also uploaded a custom compile based on MKChamp's source files updates.

That got the attention of Twisty at MW.  Several reasons - the build  not only saves hi-scores, it also disables startup screens - thus a violation of the MAME TM, along with the fact that source data files were not included, an extension to the MAME license (derivative builds) to allow re-posting of the binary was never applied for nor granted, etc. etc.

Someone else posted that MAME's save state code did not work well for maintaining hi-scores from build to build.

Someone else posted that it was very simple to modify the source to add hi-score support back in.

I posted a link to MKChamp's thread on here where he lists the the suggested source code modifications.

That prompted Arbee's infamous "You *really* don't want to wave a red flag in front of the devs like that. We made BYOAC possible, we can unmake it." comment.

Out of respect for Arbee, the devs in general, and the hard work that goes into maintaining MAME, I deleted my post - There wasn't a good way to say:  "Deleted link to source code modifications info" or anything, so I thought it best just to remove the information that Arbee was complaining about.

Basically that pretty much summarizes it.
MYX:
You know, there is a rules of the forum sticky. I think it should be a mandatory read before their membership is accepted. Perhaps a have read and understand the rules of this site. (things like demanding answers on their first post without first searching).
It might be mentioned that newbs not address a MAMEDev until they have some sort of understanding as to what their intentions are with the project. We do get nailed as a whole because a newb starts shooting off about THEIR needs even though it goes totally against the MAME goals.
I have been using MAME for many years now. I am too grateful because I am able to play all the games I thought were lost. Then, when MikeQ got permission from mamedevs to make powermame, it was sort of open season because he was asking for ideas. Many of our ideas came to fruition. (too bad it died.)


--- Quote from: SavannahLion on March 26, 2007, 10:52:50 pm ---For those of us who are still new to BYOAC, can anyone please elaborate who Saint is?

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I got to meet Saint at an Arcade Auction. Real nice guy. Much taller than his avatar lets on (kinda one of those things like object in mirror is closer than it looks). I took a picture of him as as it is rare to spot him. He only comes out once a year to check if he sees his shadow.





As I understand it, he lives holed up in the mountains of North Carolina. Something about a secret fortress with submarine access. 
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