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TPB:

--- Quote from: MaximRecoil on January 22, 2008, 06:10:35 pm ---Is there any particular reason why you think you are Havok's spokesman?

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Havok made the posts.

And Havok's free to answer that question.

Havok ??
MaximRecoil:

--- Quote from: txtworld on January 22, 2008, 06:11:49 pm ---
--- Quote from: MaximRecoil on January 22, 2008, 06:10:35 pm ---Is there any particular reason why you think you are Havok's spokesman?

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Havok made the posts.

And Havok's free to answer that question.

Havok ??


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Good grief. Havok already answered, a few times. Here is his latest answer:


--- Quote from: Havok on January 21, 2008, 10:04:29 pm ---I do have to agree - let's back off for a bit and see what happens. I believe that David is operating in good faith, and that this will happen. It's like he said, this is a side operation, not his main business, when when the real work gets backed up, the side stuff is put on hold.

Let's give it a month and see where David is at then. Hopefully by then, I'll have a shiny new yoke in hand that I can sleep at night with when not using in my cabinet...

 ;D

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What do those words that he typed in standard English mean to you? Apparently something different than they mean to everyone else...
TAG:

--- Quote from: txtworld on January 22, 2008, 06:09:55 pm ---Anyone's free to lodge a supporting argument for this comment. 

Pity no-one's prepared to do that.

I guess it's easier to just attack the messenger, and pull down the shutters on this thread.

So, let's all just accept this as "fact" :


--- Quote from: TAG on January 21, 2008, 06:30:17 pm ---I guess I don't get it, either.  I've not seen any indication that David misled anyone into believing that the yokes were ready to be released upon order. ...

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I didn't respond because I was under the impression that everyone was ready to let this whole "debate" go.   Apparently, most everyone else is.

At any rate, I maintain that *IN MY OPINION* David didn't mislead anyone with the whole pre-order business, as it was clear from the moment the project was announced that there was no guarantee as to when they'd be ready.  And he never said, "Hey' they're done and ready to ship," then failed to send them out.  Never.   That's what I meant by the "the yokes were ready to be released upon order" comment.  Seemed clear to me at the time, still seems clear now.

Of course, YMMV.  Obviously.

rovingmind:
ok people. STOP!!!!   Please ???

This is the thread i'm watching for RELEASE INFORMATION on this project. 

QUIT before it gets sent to PNR or POST HELL

You've already pissed off Saint, and it sounds like his banning finger is getting itchy.

go to politics if you want to and create a bash this project thread THERE.

This isnt Havoks thread, its David's thread about a project most of us want or need.

TPB:
MaximRecoil,

The point is, there were valid issues.

There was a valid reason for this thread.

Those issues have since been remedied - great !!

Three cheers to David, for responding in the appropriate manner.    :applaud:

So, now, we can all give this thread a break.

But there a procession of fanboi's who keep coming along in this thread, insisting there was never a valid reason for this thread in the first instance, and there was never any issue to discuss.

You can't just rewrite the facts, whichever way they suit you.


Another matter ... Saint, I don't think it reflects well on your supposed position of independence, as the forum owner and moderator, to be taking partisan positions.

Saint, are you prepared to personally financially reimburse the pre-order folks, if they end up "high & dry" without their money ?? ... this is not likely to happen, as David has (to his great credit) previously honoured commitments to provide refunds ... but, by his own admission, he's currently in a legal dispute with a business partner, and has lost control of his website as a result ... in these circumstances, anything can eventuate.

Now, of course I'll get flamed by all and sundry for making these comments (heaven forbid, to dare to voice an opinion in disagreement with the forum owner and moderator).

So ... go right ahead, guys.

Dirt ... throw some more dirt in my direction.  Knock yourself out.    :)
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