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Santoro:









UPDATE  -Spoilers through the Season Finale.


* S P O I L E R S *
Do not read ahead if you haven't watched up to the latest BSG episode. (Episode 318 - "The Son Also Rises" aired Sunday Mar-11-2007 in the US.)






















This is all idle speculation I put together last night for my blog. I changed my mind and decided I'd probably get more discussion going on here.

So with Kara Thrace (Starbuck) 'killed off,' what might the future hold for the show?  Here are my thoughts and observations:

*In the credits for Sunday's episode 318, her name was removed.  A few folks have noticed that there was an appropriate 'pause' in the credits between names as though still holding a spot for her name.

*I refuse to believe that the otherwise brilliant BSG writers decided to suddenly scrap the idea of Kara's 'brilliant destiny' and dumb it down so that her destiny is now to go mental and ‘off herself.’

*As cheezy as it would be, it is possible that she ejected (they showed her holding the eject handle) and is either on the Cylon heavy raider she was pursuing or on the planet surface.

*A more likely scenario IMHO is that Kara has some sort of mystical afterlife, maybe as one of the Final Five Cylons, or as something bigger.  There are some interesting tidbits in BSG ‘lore’ that support this:

An online article about BSG 1980 says:

--- Quote ---The Beings of Light are a mysterious race that travel using the Ship of Lights. Called angels by the primitive people on Kobol, these creatures helped them develop the civilization that would become the Twelve Colonies (War of the Gods).
Apparently mistakes were made in the past by these advanced beings, as they seem reluctant to interfere directly with the Colonials or the Terrans. They help Apollo and battlestar Galactica save the Terrans from themselves (Experiment in Terra).
--- End quote ---
……

--- Quote ---A scrapped episode, entitled "The Wheel of Fire," would have had Starbuck rescued from a lonely asteroid by more representatives of this mysterious race.
--- End quote ---

It seems plausible to me that these beings are present in the new series and rescued Kara as was outlined in the unproduced episode.  Hell, she could even be an offspring of one of them…her father is only described as an ‘unhappy musician.’  Her mother, being military, could have had opportunity – knowingly or not -  to mingle with them. This would help explain the brilliant white light shown from our perspective as she was dying.  She wasn’t flying toward any sun-like object.  It would also help explain why everyone is going on about her destiny incessantly. 

From  Wikepedia’s discussion on BSG religious documents: (the sentence structure is wrong, so preface this whole thing with (sic)


--- Quote ---So far, the show has offered little detail of the Sacred Scroll, other than that it contains the Book of Pythia, which chronicles an ancient female, who journeyed with the 13th tribe on their voyage to earth. Pythia also described the exodus of the 12 tribes, and the things to happen to them. She described a dying leader, who will guide the tribes to salvation. .. the scriptures tell of the return to Kobol, stating that bringing the Arrow of Apollo to the Tomb of Athena. The dying leader is to die just before the end of the journey. President Roslin sees herself as playing the part of the leader in the texts, as she is dying of terminal breast cancer (at least at the events up to the middle of season 2).
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Is it possible Kara was actually the fabled leader?  Maybe she was sick?  Whatever the case she will likely be back only here and there.  I actually heard a radio interview with Katie Sakhoff where she said carefully "Starbuck as we know her is gone."  Later she slipped and said "I don't know when I'm coming back" - not "if I'm coming back."

I also predict that Sam Anders will be outed as a Cylon.  I base this on 1) the previews for next week’s show had the Six in custody revealing that she knew what Tigh had done to his wife.  Only Tigh, his wife, and Anders were near when it happened.  2) When Galactica was liberating New Caprica and Anders met Athena in the river he gave her a creepy and ‘knowing’ smile.  To me it was too odd to be unintentional.

Overall I think that the show is going in a direction that will eventually have Cylon and Human reaching Earth together.  By that time so many of those we thought to be human will have been disclosed to be Cylons that humanity will be forced to redefine what human is, and instead measure people by their actions, not their mechanical or organic nature.  Or some such drivel.  :)

What do you think?



Howard_Casto:
Well Katie Sakhoff was thinking of leaving the show and they had bad contract disputes with her.  Rather than doing the old "check out Bo and Lukes cousins that look just like them and for no apparent reason moved to hazzard and started driving hte duke's car" route they decided to tastefully kill her off for now. 

BSG isn't exactly full of twists and turns in terms of plot... they've practically screamed the answer to you already, she is one of the fabled "5" the cylons keep yapping about.  And nope she's not the leader, because she was never dying, she just died. 

You are running to conclusions about Tigh and the whole outed cylon bit.  She was dead, in the rebel base with a cup of poison in her hands.  Any cylon that found the body could have pieced it together.  If anything, his wife is the likely cyclon (but that is doubtful). 

They will make it to earth... when they are ready to cancel the show.  That bit ruins the show, look at BSG 1980 (UGH!). 

Santoro:

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on March 14, 2007, 01:06:37 am ---BSG isn't exactly full of twists and turns in terms of plot... they've practically screamed the answer to you already, she is one of the fabled "5" the cylons keep yapping about. 

--- End quote ---

I know that's what they've been 'screaming' is the answer.  I am beginning to think it's way too obvious and actually a diversion for something bigger.  There is a lot of talk in the press that the season ending is going to freak out a lot of fans, and that makes no sense if she is one of the Final 5.  Everyone is expecting that.    That's why I said  "*A more likely scenario IMHO is that Kara has some sort of mystical afterlife, maybe as one of the Final Five Cylons, or as something bigger."

edit, found this from Jamie Bamber:

--- Quote ---TVGuide.com: I'm so excited about the fourth-season pickup, but we're still watching this season. Good stuff coming up?
Bamber: I think so. I think it is really, really great stuff. The last four episodes in particular are really quite extraordinary. There are huge changes within the show, there are several huge surprises. By all accounts, the editors and people who have seen cuts of the finale are really, really excited.

TVGuide.com: Well, at the end of every season I'm usually sitting with my jaw wide open in shock.
Bamber: Yeah, I honestly think that this year your jaw will be even closer to the floor. It is a different finale in the sense that the previous ones have been about fragmenting the characters and spreading them all over different parts of space, and this one, everyone is really on board Galactica. Every major character is on Galactica, and the stuff going on down on Galactica is where the drama is.

TVGuide.com: Do I need my box of tissues?
Bamber: You'll need them along the way [for the final four episodes]. But for the finale, you're going to need to prop up your jaw.
--- End quote ---



--- Quote ---You are running to conclusions about Tigh and the whole outed cylon bit.  She was dead, in the rebel base with a cup of poison in her hands.  Any cylon that found the body could have pieced it together.  If anything, his wife is the likely cyclon (but that is doubtful). 
--- End quote ---

You don't think they gave her a proper burial offscreen?  How would said Cylon have known it was Tigh that did it?   I agree Ellen Tigh probably couldn't be a Cylon.   Anyway the Anders thing for me is a hunch, there's not a lot of evidence to support it, just lots of small oddities that seem to add up to something.


--- Quote ---They will make it to earth... when they are ready to cancel the show. 
--- End quote ---
 
Moore has said in a Q&A that he knows exactly what time it will be when they reach Earth, so it's pretty much decided.  Hopefully they can make it before the network pulls the plug.


--- Quote ---That bit ruins the show, look at BSG 1980 (UGH!).
--- End quote ---
  I'll bet the modern version could make it work rather well.

edit: forgot to mention that I read Sakhoff is still under contract with NBC/Universal.

jbox:
I have stated before that I don't see the point in trying to work out what is going to happen next in BSG. A truly planned show would have happily dropped clues about New Caprica and the Algae planet *before* those episodes were written. Don't get me wrong, it's an excellent show that really tries to deal with the real-life day to day issues of living like they do, even going out on a limb to deal with topics like abortion, drug abuse and racism. I just don't see the point on speculating on shows like this and Lost when it's clear that the writers may have some ideas on a whiteboard somewhere, but there is definitely no hard and fast plan for the show like there was for B5.

mr.Curmudgeon:
This show really is a Man Soap (Opera) isn't it?    ;)

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