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ChadTower:

--- Quote from: hulkster on February 08, 2008, 10:12:59 am ---i agree, however mameing classics now even with what i know isnt necessarily a "moral issue" for me.  its more of a financial decision.  if i got a free pacman cab with original art, and just needed new paint.  i would preserve and sell it to make some good money.  if i could not sell and make enough money however, i would mame it, but keep the original art, cp, etc....but just take out the circuitry.  but id sell the circuitry to people like you  :angel:

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Then in your eyes it is actually never wrong.  It is only a question of convenience and profit.

hulkster:

--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on February 08, 2008, 10:07:37 am ---
--- Quote from: hulkster on February 08, 2008, 09:51:39 am ---for beginners, i would say its just fine to mame a classic.

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 :dizzy:

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then what do you suggest for someone just getting into the habit? 

scenario:  free original pacman was just given to someone who is starting out with this arcade stuff.  they dont have a whole lot of room in their house, and the enjoy pacman, although they would love to have other games to play as well.  their options are:  restore the original cab and have only pacman, restore then sell even when they dont know anything about it, or mame it and play 10k games. 

morality and ethics and whatever you want to call dont really come into play here.  it really just depends on your point of view.

hulkster:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on February 08, 2008, 10:14:28 am ---
--- Quote from: hulkster on February 08, 2008, 10:12:59 am ---i agree, however mameing classics now even with what i know isnt necessarily a "moral issue" for me.  its more of a financial decision.  if i got a free pacman cab with original art, and just needed new paint.  i would preserve and sell it to make some good money.  if i could not sell and make enough money however, i would mame it, but keep the original art, cp, etc....but just take out the circuitry.  but id sell the circuitry to people like you  :angel:

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Then in your eyes it is actually never wrong.  It is only a question of convenience and profit.

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pretty much yeah.  the classics can be recreated and remade...at least the cab and controls.  the circuitry and boards and all that, well i dont know if they are still being made or not, but i would at least sell those if they arent going to be used.  cabs can be recreated with a trip to home depot.  now for instance, if i came across a brand new mint condition..um....Atari console or something....and i wanted to turn it into a bookshelf or something....well then you cant really go to home depot or any local store to recreate the materials to make another atari. 

certain things cannot be easily reproduced, but cabs can.  it is just particle board like the thread says.  EVERYTHING can be easily reproduced (albeit the circuitry) by reasonable means, so i dont know everyone throws a hissy when someone tears one up.  yes its dumb to trash a mint condition DK cab.  could i make one myself now if i really wanted to?  yeah.  would be expensive?  maybe, but its feasible.

ChadTower:

--- Quote from: hulkster on February 08, 2008, 10:34:10 am ---morality and ethics and whatever you want to call dont really come into play here.  it really just depends on your point of view.

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Morality and ethics are your point of view.

For your scenario:  sell it and get a more appropriate cab if they don't want Pacman.  I don't buy the "I don't understand what a classic is" argument.  If a person knows videogames they know Pacman is a classic and will know many of the other classics.  I could see someone not knowing something like Red Baron.  Battlezone?  Robotron?  Frogger?  Anyone that wants a MAME cab knows those games.

shardian:

--- Quote from: hulkster on February 08, 2008, 10:34:10 am ---
--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on February 08, 2008, 10:07:37 am ---
--- Quote from: hulkster on February 08, 2008, 09:51:39 am ---for beginners, i would say its just fine to mame a classic.

--- End quote ---

 :dizzy:

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then what do you suggest for someone just getting into the habit? 

scenario:  free original pacman was just given to someone who is starting out with this arcade stuff.  they dont have a whole lot of room in their house, and the enjoy pacman, although they would love to have other games to play as well.  their options are:  restore the original cab and have only pacman, restore then sell even when they dont know anything about it, or mame it and play 10k games. 

morality and ethics and whatever you want to call dont really come into play here.  it really just depends on your point of view.

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When I first started, I was looking for a GUTTED cab to MAME. If a real honest to goodness fully stocked and working classic fell into my lap, I would not have stripped it out to MAME it. I would have said "Sweet! A real honest to goodness working Pacman. That is awesome!" The last thing on my mind would have been to say "Sweet, a Pacman cabinet! I can't wait to play Street Fighter on this bad boy."

Coincidentally, I still have my first ever gutted cabinet. It was a Taito Alpine Ski with a Jungle king CP hacked for 2 extra buttons. I originally planned a frankenpanel modeled after Rampy's Taito cab, then I planned a switchable CP Mame cab, and finally, it is now going to be a replica Jungle king cab w/ MAME. That one cabinet best represents my evolving code of ethics in arcade gaming.

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