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Preserve the Classics OR It's Just Particle Board
J_K_M_A_N:
--- Quote from: SirPoonga on April 10, 2003, 10:23:15 am ---Good analogy. If you became the new owner of the original Declaration of Independence, would you tear it to use it as bookmarks or would you try to preserve it?
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Well, actually, that isn't a good analogy because there was only 1 original DOI. Personally, I don't think of any cab as unmameable. If you really want a classic cab, you can build one and make the side art and most everything else look like the original. The cab itself isn't a great piece of history. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE to see classic cabs because it brings me back to a pretty good childhood. But if I saw a new clone of a classic cab, I would feel the same about it. I mean, it is possible to make a classic looking cab nowadays with the computers for the sideart and marquees and control panel graphics. To me the cab was/is just a cab that usually looked ok. Not great. It is the game that was/is great. Just my thoughts.
J_K_M_A_N
MilitiaMan:
There are generic JAMMA cabinets everywhere to be MAME'ed if you look hard enough. I don't think anyone is going to gripe about my 1996 NBA Hangtime sitting out in the garage when it get's MAME'ed.
But if you MAME a Frogger, or a Defender, or ~god forbid~ a Tempest .... you are not what this hobby is all about. I would kill for a Tempest cab in even halfway decent condition ----- to restore it. NOT TO KILL IT!
Anyone need this soapbox? I'm done with it.
MM
Brax:
--- Quote from: MilitiaMan on April 10, 2003, 06:36:32 pm ---There are generic JAMMA cabinets everywhere to be MAME'ed if you look hard enough. I don't think anyone is going to gripe about my 1996 NBA Hangtime sitting out in the garage when it get's MAME'ed.
But if you MAME a Frogger, or a Defender, or ~god forbid~ a Tempest .... you are not what this hobby is all about. I would kill for a Tempest cab in even halfway decent condition ----- to restore it. NOT TO KILL IT!
Anyone need this soapbox? I'm done with it.
MM
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Somebody in 10 years time will scream bloody murder you killed a Hangtime. Count on it. That was someones favortite game in 1996. Any game that was popular will become a classic in the future. That cabinet definitely classifies as a future classic. Don't be shortsighted in your butchering.
Who cared about Dig Dug cabinets in 1988?
paigeoliver:
Actually. Besides generic JAMMA cabinets (most of which were actually once classics themselves). the BEST cabinets to MAME are vector games. Asteroids, Star Wars, and even TEMPEST!
You know why? Because there are two of those things with dead monitors for everyone that has a working one, and they ALL seem to have problematic boardsets.
Believe me there are not nearly enough working vector monitors for all the vector cabinets out there. If you have a non-working vector game, that is probably really your best bet for MAME. And someone with a working copy of the same game will be grateful for the spare parts.
Can you still find vector monitors that work to help fix up your vector. Yes, you can. But all you are doing is keeping that monitor out of someone elses cabinet.
Another thing. The main games people seem to cry over are also the most common games on earth. People cry over converted Ms. Pac cabinets, and then go out days later and rape some working dedicated "also ran" just for the monitor.
A few years ago I was winning an auction for nonworking B&W games for $1, when the seller cancelled the auction with an hour left. I asked him what was up. He said that he was just going to burn them instead, as it wasn't going to be worth the effort to sell them.
90 percent of those Dig Dugs, Pacs and Defenders aren't going anywhere anytime soon. If you REALLY want to save something. Then save a strange game. Better yet, save several of them. I have some common games, but then I also have a few RARE games as well. My Rare ones are Jack the Giantkiller (dedicated cocktail), Time Pilot (cocktailm which is uber rare, the upright is common), and I have 3 dedicated oddballs on the way, Radar Zone, The Amazing Maze Game, and Checkmate.
Save that weird stuff, everyone of them could theoretically be "the last one". Seriously. Most of those weird games had production runs under 500. While most Atari, Williams, and Midway stuff was 4000, 8000, and even 20,000 to 100,000 and up!
VMJ Team:
I saw that dig-dug cab too...also left my personal view on the subject in the Projects forum. As an Engineer, I respect the design and creation of classic cabinets that "someone" created...but we no longer live in that time....arcade cabinets can come and go out of style...noone's trying to bring back behives or butterfly collars...If that's what you're into...great.
I grew up in the 80's and spent countless hours in arcades as many of you did. If I had a classic, I personally would decide whether it was acceptable as is or if modifications were needed...the fact that it is a classic would not enter the decision process at all...it is simply painted particle board that some guy cut out from behind a machine and assemble with screws...then someone slapped a big ol sticker on the side and passed it down to the next guy in the assembly line...no big deal...if it was something that could never ever be duplicated again...than that is a different story entirely.
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