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| parpunk:
its cool man i need all the input i can get lol. Ill try the control panel and see how it feels. will there be an easy alternative if it sucks? |
| paigeoliver:
Fixing those sticks is just a matter of physically rotating them in place so they match the others. It will only take a few minutes. You will want to make this change. Otherwise your friends will lose interest in your machine almost instantly. Plus angling side sticks makes playing 2 player Smash TV and things like that impossible, and you are a lot more likely to be playing 2 player Smash TV than anything 4 player. I briefly had a 4 player layout, it would never see any 4 player action. People would play 2 players at a time on 4 player games while the other people waited. Grown men just don't like being all smashed up together on 4 player machines. |
| Tiger-Heli:
--- Quote from: polaris on March 12, 2007, 06:39:46 pm ---i stand corrected if this is so but i honestly seem to remember that the p3/p4 up on gauntlet were turned through 90 degress so up was away but youre saying they were all oriented directly to the movement on screen. hey it was 20 years ago so im not getting into arguments i could well be wrong, gutted though i wanted to do a 4 player of that layout. sorry if im using this thread to answer my questions ,they just seem on topic to me. --- End quote --- I tried to research this on MAWS and got conflicting results: Gauntlet - http://www.mameworld.net/maws/img/cpanel/gauntlet.png Clearly all sticks are mounted the same way (not at a 45-degree angle), but no easy way to tell if the side sticks have the switches oriented the same way or not - i.e. with this mounting method, UP for Thor could be either up or right - no way to tell without tracing the wires. Captain America - http://www.mameworld.net/maws/img/cpanel/captaven.png Player 3 and 4 sticks appear to be angled similar to the angle they would stand at the machine. They are not parallel to the 1 and 2 sticks. 2on2 Open Ice Challenge - http://www.mameworld.net/maws/img/cpanel/openice.png Same as Captain America. DD - Shadows over Mystera - http://www.mameworld.net/maws/img/cpanel/ddsom.png All sticks seem to be oriented the same way, but also looks like all players would be facing the screen the same way. Gauntlet Legends - http://www.mameworld.net/maws/img/cpanel/gauntleg.png You can see for the green player, UP is clearly labeled as toward the machine, but again, this could be set up so the 4th player is facing the machine when playing. Super Hi-Impact Football - http://www.mameworld.net/maws/img/cpanel/hiimpact.png The middle (2&3) sticks are clearly angled to match the angle that the players would stand at. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - http://www.mameworld.net/maws/img/cpanel/tmnt.png Same as DDSOM. Sunset Riders - http://www.mameworld.net/maws/img/cpanel/ssriders.png Same as Gauntlet, however, P3 and P4 sticks appear to be turned inward to me. SpiderMan - http://www.mameworld.net/maws/img/cpanel/spidman.png Same as DDSOM. |
| polaris:
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on March 12, 2007, 11:34:50 pm ---Fixing those sticks is just a matter of physically rotating them in place so they match the others. It will only take a few minutes.quote] im really struggling to understand this, i can see you may suggest cutting off 3 and 4 entirely but if you just rotate them so all up directions are pointing straight at the screen it would IMHO render them unusable as you would have to reach both hands to one side of your body to use the controls, to put them all in the same plane would involve a new bigger top to the CP surely so that all four players were side by side. to me as long as the i knew that pushing the controller away from me meant the character would move up on the screen it wouldnt necassarily matter the orientation of that stick to the screen ,as i said previously im sure players 3/4 in gauntlet pushed away from them for up and it seems natural to me to make a panel like this. again i can see the 45 degree angle may still leave the four players too close for comfort but id let LANGDOGUK find out for himself he doesnt like the way it feels before you tell him he has to change it. edit ; sorry dont know how my text got wrapped into the quote --- End quote --- |
| davieboynj:
--- Quote from: polaris on March 13, 2007, 12:21:12 pm --- --- Quote from: paigeoliver on March 12, 2007, 11:34:50 pm ---Fixing those sticks is just a matter of physically rotating them in place so they match the others. It will only take a few minutes. --- End quote --- im really struggling to understand this, i can see you may suggest cutting off 3 and 4 entirely but if you just rotate them so all up directions are pointing straight at the screen it would IMHO render them unusable as you would have to reach both hands to one side of your body to use the controls, to put them all in the same plane would involve a new bigger top to the CP surely so that all four players were side by side. to me as long as the i knew that pushing the controller away from me meant the character would move up on the screen it wouldnt necassarily matter the orientation of that stick to the screen ,as i said previously im sure players 3/4 in gauntlet pushed away from them for up and it seems natural to me to make a panel like this. again i can see the 45 degree angle may still leave the four players too close for comfort but id let LANGDOGUK find out for himself he doesnt like the way it feels before you tell him he has to change it. --- End quote --- I have a 4p cab and i know for certain that people don't like being crushed into it. you will only ever see 2p even on simpsons/xmen/cows moo mesa/sunset riders. If you want 4p, leave the controllers, but a 45deg setup will definitely confuse people, and will make true classics like smashTV, Total Carnage, and CrazyClimber2 2p unplayable. For an arcade setup, it's possible that a 45deg setup is better. For mame it's just wrong. If you need the 1 and 4 turned in, get the ultimarc sticks, and configure as such. |
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