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Neo Geo Candy 26 sit down arcade cabinet w/ trisync VGA monitor!
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shardian:
So, you are saying the problem is a replaceable, $15 part right? Well that sure sounds like an "adjustment" to me. You got the cabinet for $500, which is a really good price for what you got. Get your part, repair the monitor, be happy.

However, it does seem odd that Eastbay wouldn't have went ahead and gave you $15. He is a good trader on here with a good rep. Therefor, I have to assume that you approached him about the subject in a negative manner that pissed him off, or you asked for more than just the $15 part.
TheRed:

--- Quote from: FrizzleFried on April 08, 2007, 12:43:04 pm ---Segasonicfan,  it is getting more and more clear that you are upset with yourself for not being a diligent buyer and you are taking it out on the seller.  Again "buyer beware" applies here.  The guy was open enough to allow you to inspect the equipment on sight.  When you agreed to purchase said equipment and handed him the money,  the deal was DONE.


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I agree and disagree...I don't think he is mad at himself for not looking more, but rather mad at himself for trusting someone he didn't really know who was obviously holding back information on the extent of damage on this monitor. I do think it's his fault for not looking at it closer when he had the chance.


--- Quote from: pinballjim on April 08, 2007, 05:19:24 pm ---Here's a clue, though.  When a fix should only take 10 minutes... and it hasn't been done... THERE'S A REASON.



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QFT


and the reason why I can say this, it happend to me. Dumb ass, all excited, trusting the other guy who's all into gaming....not knowing he's holding back hoping to get out with the money.


BUT....I can totally see this segasonic guy contacting him yelling and screaming about how he lied and stuff...causing him to tell him to F-off or something, lol.
segasonicfan:

--- Quote ---So, you are saying the problem is a replaceable, $15 part right? Well that sure sounds like an "adjustment" to me. You got the cabinet for $500, which is a really good price for what you got. Get your part, repair the monitor, be happy.

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Replacing a broken part is not an "adjustment."  Why is this so difficult for people to understand??  $500 also is not a really good price especially considering the other minor things it's missing- Sanwa controllers were taken out (no he will not give me back the originals of those either) coin mech is missing, JAMMA harness needed fixing (was missing pin and actually broke one of my boards), lock for marquee light has no key and needs replacing, missing marquee light, replaced beaten up control panel, etc etc.  Most of these are normal issues though so there is no reason to bother the seller about them (other than to simply ask if he has any of the parts missing laying around at home).  Just noting that this cab is not any sort of sweet deal.  The main reason I bought it was for the supposedly working trisync monitor.


--- Quote ---However, it does seem odd that Eastbay wouldn't have went ahead and gave you $15. He is a good trader on here with a good rep. Therefor, I have to assume that you approached him about the subject in a negative manner that pissed him off, or you asked for more than just the $15 part.
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That is an assumption.  I did not approach him in a negative manner.  I can post my email here later if you would like.


--- Quote ---BUT....I can totally see this segasonic guy contacting him yelling and screaming about how he lied and stuff...causing him to tell him to F-off or something, lol.
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I didn't do anything like that.  I have had deals go sour before (been trading online for years) and I don't respond immaturely like that.  I simply sent a polite email requesting some sort of partial refund or his help finding the broken part.

Okay so I'll say this one last time people: needing adjustment does not mean it needs broken parts replaced to work.  This just really isn't that complicated.  The problem was not easy to find and I did inspect the cab before buying it.  Where I come from it is the seller's responsibility to honestly describe an item for sale.  If the listing had said AS IS, BROKEN, etc. I wouldn't be here right now.  It was not, and as such I don't believe it was an honest sale.  That's all there is to it.

-Segasonicfan
TheRed:

--- Quote from: segasonicfan on April 08, 2007, 07:15:24 pm ---
Okay so I'll say this one last time people: needing adjustment does not mean it needs broken parts replaced to work. 

-Segasonicfan

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that's true. I think you have every right to complain.
eastbayarb:
First, there was no verbal or written contract for the purchase of the cab, nor was there anything discussed or implied concerning a refund or partial refund contigent on the dissatisfaction after purchase. The buyer looked at the cab outside and inside, started adjusting whatever inside in front of me (it started looking better once he did whatever he did which was beyond my expertise, hence the quote in my ad, "The monitor needs readjustment (convervence, I was told. I just don't have time to do it),") I never flat out refused to give this guy an part of his purchase price back. I stated in an email quote,

"As far as a refund or whatever, that wasn't a part of our agreement nor did I mention this in my ad. I said in my ad that I would give links on fixing it and I can't really offer any other support because I simply don't know about these kinds of machines."  I never said "I wouldn't even consider it", so that claim is slanderous at best.

I was originally asking $500, but I sold the unit at $400 due to the fact that I needed to move it (and other items) out of my house due to the move I was involved in, and the fact that I didn't have the time nor knowledge on how to properly repair it and I made this very clear. If there were any broken parts or anthing he didn't like, he should not have bought the unit. He thoroughly inspected and tested (I hooked up a dreamcast to the monitor) /adjusted the unit/monitor and he bought it anyways. I concur with FizzleFried when he said the buyer should have been more diligent before buying. To reinterate again, the buyer looked at this unit inside and out. I gave him back the sanwa buttons as I promised I would. It really is unfortunate that what happened happened, but this is and was out of my hands as far as the condition of the unit. When you choose to buy something without legally binding, written contract
complete with terms of purchase, signatures, and such (I provided some high quality pics of this unit to the buyer), you assume any kind of risk before, during, and after purchase.

shardian,

it wasn't about how he approached me (when I do business, it's never personal, and I choose to conduct business like a gentleman. If things go wrong, I try to handle things in a civil manner rather than just flying off the handle and making accusations), it's just that he assumed that I would give him a refund, when I told him we didn't discuss any contingency, I didn't flat out refuse as the buyer claims, I just explained that refunds were never discussed.

pinballjim,

he got the cabinet for $400 (I lowered it due to the convergence issue and the fact that I needed to get it out of my house since I was moving). A fix that may take 10 minutes as you say to a professional, may take much longer for someone that doesn't know what they are doing (in my case I didn't and I didn't want to attempt to modify anything like this causing damage to the unit or myself). The buyer seemed to know what he was getting into when he started adjusting the monitor and especially after I asked him if he could fix it and ESPECIALLY after he loaded it into his truck and paid for it.

TheRed,

I didn't withold any info. The buyer looked at the unit inside and out as I stated. If he didn't like it, he should not have bought it. There was no obligation. The seller was pretty adimant about buying it because he didn't show up the day before to buy it and I could have sold it to someone else that inquired, but he bought it the next morning.

segasonicfan,

I am sorry that this transaction didn't work out as you planned but I was very clear about everything. You are not being truthful because I gave you back the sanwa buttons (the ball top sticks are still there), you looked at the cab inside and our so you should have seen any missing/broken parts if any, I told you no marquee light or key was present (should have been obvious anyways). You looked at the cab quite extensively and I provided descriptions and pictures so nothing should have come to any surprise (especially since you bought it anyways). If there was any doubts about the cab, you should not have bought it. Pure and simple.
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