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Tiger-Heli:
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--- Quote from: Tiger-Heli on May 23, 2007, 04:56:18 pm ---No again, the LEDWiz's should NOT be plugged into the same hub and should be in separate ports, UNLESS you specifically order them with different UID's at the time of order. These can NOT be set in software. Same goes for the Opti-Wiz's as well, AFAIK, but don't quote me on that part. 8)
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Actually, you can connect several LED-Wiz's to the same hub. But as Kaytrim stated, run the power externally.
Multiple units must have individual ID numbers . . .
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Actually, that's what I said above, but I might not have worded it as clearly.
--- Quote ---Also, multiple Opti-Wiz boards should have their own IDs. However, an Opti-Wiz, TurboTwist2 and Electric ICE trackball are all different devices, even though they use similar firmware. These can all be device 1 without any issues. Only select device 2+ if you are installing multiple units of the same type (e.g. more than one TT2, etc.)
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That's the part I was unclear on.
Tiger-Heli:
--- Quote from: Kaytrim on May 23, 2007, 05:29:03 pm ---If Andy has fixed this issue then great. Though it would be a nice service to the customer if they were pre-programmed like Randy does his encoder cards. This is meant as a suggestion not a negative comment on Andy and his stuff.
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Totally disagree here. It is great to have the flexibility to set a UID to whatever you want it in software. I wish RandyT's devices had this feature. This is meant as a suggestion, not a negative comment on GGG and their stuff. :laugh2:
Tiger-Heli:
--- Quote from: Kaytrim on May 23, 2007, 06:16:35 pm ---I guess I am missing the boat here. I remember several threads a few months ago that were about problems with the U360 sticks being remapped after a reboot. Joy 1 now player 2 and vice versa. This was due to Windows not being able to tell the difference between two devices with the same ID. What was the answer to the problem? I'd like to know what the proper solution is so I don't mislead anyone else on this.
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I don't know Kaytrim. I don't remember those threads so all I can do is speculate. However, there are two situations where I can see this being an issue.
1) If someone installed their U360's, plugged them into a hub or the same motherboard pair of ports, but didn't bother to program them or set a UID, I (think?) they would both work and default to UID1. The first one plugged in would be Joy1 and the second would be Joy2, but this order could swap on reboot.
2) If someone were building a desktop CP, (almost mis-spoke here) - I think MAME assigns devices in the order installed and then the order it finds them taking UID into account. So if stick 1 is UID 1, Stick 2 is UID 2, Stick 1 is plugged into the hub first (first new device installed), and then Stick 2 is plugged into the same hub and the hub is mounted into the desktop CP, everything should work fine (One USB cable to connect and disconnect). If no hub in the desktop CP, and separate USB cables are used, either one could be plugged in in any order without problem. However, if stick 1 were not plugged in, but stick 2 was, MAME would see Stick 2 as Joy 1 until stick 1 was plugged in, then Stick 1 would be Joy 1 and Stick 2 would shift back to Joy 2.
I think all that was correct. I haven't tried this and UrebelScum (and Krick) are really the "experts" on this. 8)
Kaytrim:
--- Quote from: Tiger-Heli link=topic=63010.msg679240#msg679240 ---
1) If someone installed their U360's, plugged them into a hub or the same motherboard pair of ports, but didn't bother to program them or set a UID, I (think?) they would both work and default to UID1. The first one plugged in would be Joy1 and the second would be Joy2, but this order could swap on reboot.
2) If someone were building a desktop CP, (almost mis-spoke here) - I think MAME assigns devices in the order installed and then the order it finds them taking UID into account. So if stick 1 is UID 1, Stick 2 is UID 2, Stick 1 is plugged into the hub first (first new device installed), and then Stick 2 is plugged into the same hub and the hub is mounted into the desktop CP, everything should work fine (One USB cable to connect and disconnect). If no hub in the desktop CP, and separate USB cables are used, either one could be plugged in in any order without problem. However, if stick 1 were not plugged in, but stick 2 was, MAME would see Stick 2 as Joy 1 until stick 1 was plugged in, then Stick 1 would be Joy 1 and Stick 2 would shift back to Joy 2.
I think all that was correct. I haven't tried this and UrebelScum (and Krick) are really the "experts" on this. 8)
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This helps. I think that the issue was the first one you mentoned. Newbees that didn't following directions.
Thanks,
Kaytrim