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Mario Bros in Red !
Level42:
--- Quote from: Kevin Mullins on February 05, 2007, 10:28:38 am ---.....there was another game that used that cab as well, but can't think of it off the top of my head.
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Or maybe you meant Heli Fire ? http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?game_id=8101
However, this cab is different in that the sides are not sloped back near the CP. (The black & white) picture of the Radar Scope cab on KLOV is exactly the same as that Heli Fire cab.
Kevin Mullins:
Well, this has been a topic of discussion a few times on several forums and all seems open to opinion and interpretation. I've personally looked into it a little and come to some of my own conclusions. Some of the "early years" of Nintendo as far as "arcade" games is a little lost as far as true documetation of which came first....the chicken or the egg type thing. They most defineately had a few "arcade" games before Radar Scope. I'm thinking Radar Scope was one of the first to distribute overseas to the US and abroad etc.
1979
Monkey Magic
Sheriff
Space Fever
Space Launcher
SF Hisplitter
1980
Space Firebird
Radar Scope
HeliFire
1981
Donkey Kong
Sky Skipper
As for the history of Radar Scope and it's demise into Donkey Kong......
Wikipedia on Radarscope
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_Scope
Arcadeguy's great page about it:
http://www.arcadeguy.com/radarscope/
(although I disagree with a few tidbits of it)
I guess I was thinking of something else when I said that there was another red cabinet game of that same design. I think now I was making more of a relationship to design time frame and the distinguishing differences between an early red Radarscope cabinet and a later red Donkey Kong cabinet. I'm almost certain, in my opinion, that some of the early Radarscopes were defineately converted to a DK after previously being a Radarscope. There were also some DK's put out in Radar Scope cabinets that were never actually completed as being a Radar Scope game when it was realized that Radar Scope was failing in the market, so they were never completed and then turned into DK's. But I also think that there were red DK's put out shortly after DK became a hit in the red cabinet from the same assembly line as the Radar Scope but they were never intended to be Radar Scope's....they were indeed the first of the dedicated DK's. I say this due to the slight design differences you'll see in the "early" cabinets versus the "later" ones. (refer back to line one of this paragraph)
The "early" ones were red... duh.... had only five slots on the speaker grill.....and only one coin mech.
The "later" ones were also red.... have seven slots on the speaker grill.....and have two coin mechs. (I think the second one was added to decrease maintenance requirements from coin jam problems, having a "backup" coin mech for customers to use)
You'll notice that HeliFire and Space Firebird were both made in the same year as Radar Scope and also carry the same characteristics as the "early" design. I know they are not exactly the same, just note the similarities between them in design.
1980 Radarscope
http://www.arcadeflyers.com/?page=flyer&id=856&image=2
1980 Helifire
http://www.arcadeflyers.com/?page=flyer&id=501&image=1
1980 Space Firebird
http://www.arcadeflyers.com/?page=flyer&id=1023&image=2
Now here's a couple showing what I consider the "later" design.
(and also what we pretty much see from then on on all Nintendo cabs of that design)
Newer Red DK 1
http://www.classicarcadeonline.com/donkeykong_8.html
Newer Red DK 2
http://www.atarifreak.com/donkey%20kong.html
Ok...... now I hope some of that made sense. I tend to get lost in some of the info myself, and I'm always open to opinions and interpretation by others.
And if you find any metal tags on the back we can also tell you what those mean.
Hopefully they were left on there, most conversions only have the current one on there even though "technically" they should have left all of them on there.
TRS- Radar Scope
TGK- Donkey Kong
TMA- Mario Bros.
On the Mario Bros. note.... the ONLY dedicated Mario Bros. cabient was the black wide-body with the speaker grill in the middle. Any others that you find are all conversions.
:dizzy: Did I miss anything?? ;D
Kevin Mullins:
Yup... I missed something..... ;)
The earlier DK four board pcb's had two different wiring harness pin styles.
One is considered the "classic" pin style and the other is considered the smaller "Radar Scope" pin style.
I consider the Radar Scope style the "early" style and the classic style the "later" style.
So if you ever come across a red Nintendo cabinet like those that still has the four board DK pcb in it, you can tell if it was originally a Radar Scope by comparing the pin style between a "classic" style and the smaller "Radar Scope" style.
Another reason I think there were red DK's that were NOT originally Radar Scopes.
They later went to the two board game pcb's for DK.
(most likely when the blue cabinet came out I think)
By the way....did I tell you that cabinet looks to be in great shape.... good score.
And I think it was originally a Radar Scope, but looks fabulous as a Mario Bros. as well.
Great classic either way.......
Look forward to seeing more of it and digging up it's history.
steveh:
that system looks bad ass. hope you can find some nice pcb's to run it .
Level42:
Kevin, thanks for all that great info, I love it !!!!
Indeed, this cab looks amazing on the pics...
I wonder if I can resist reverting it back to a DK ? ;)
The Mario artwork is fabulous I think though....
Funny you mention the Sherriff.....there was one for sale in Austria about half a year ago...I really liked the cab, but the game.....Nahhhh...
Regarding the PCB's: Has anyone played the DK/DKjr/MB 2005 re-release cab ?
(this one: http://www.namcoarcade.com/nai_gamedisplay.asp?gam=dnkykong )
I wonder how they solved the horizontal/vertical problem since both DK's are vertical and Mario Bros is Horizontal obviously.
Would it be an option to run this board in this cab ? And would there be any chance of getting such a board ? I've seen some of those Namco boards on ebay but I don't think I remember seeing this one ?
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