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Ultimarc Arcade VGA2 comparisons using a LCD for PC
genesim:
I appreciate the offer, but just wondering about the details.
So those stickers fit perfectly to the dust covers?
I would be very interested, but I still wonder where I could just buy a whole bunch more.
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By the way, I just can't help it. You act as if the Pinky picture produced was manufactured. It is only displaying what the original code is directing.
I just want to know, do you or do you not understand that the pixels being displayed accurately first is more important and scanlines can be administrated later if needed? Don't you think it is alot better then starting with a stretched picture like using Windows default options which twists the original intent all out of proportion?
I also look at your post about a concert, and I think you miss the point there too. A better comparison would be the numskulls that hate a multichannel DVD Audio that approximates how the concert would sound. So many say that stereo should be kept because that is what the original producers wanted....yet ignore the fact that the sound is fantastic and that the original producers would have used the technology if given the chance.
To build a great house, one must first start with a great foundation.
Representing Pacman in all its blocky glory is the foundation. What happens afterwards is anyone's opinion.
Myself, I can't help it. I admit that I like the picture looking sharp and having better color. LCD's are a godsend.
Malenko:
just using pacman as a reference.
there is a pacman machine at the movie theater, an original 1983 (yr?) machine with what I believe is the original monitor(judging by the screen burn) . MAME running on my CRT even at a different resolution looks much more like that display then MAME running on my LCD. I completely understand your preference of LCD its a much more modern display and while games like Pacman look better, to you, on it I prefer the less stellar CRT display because it appears more authentic , to me. Im sure if I MAMEd my MKII machine with my arcade monitor and a arcade VGA2 the display would be practically perfect
As for the MK logo shields , other then the MK3/UMK3 kits I dunno whered you get em, Im sure they could be replicated by some printers or something. The logos werent an exact fit, needed some trimming.
RandyT:
--- Quote from: genesim on July 24, 2007, 11:39:18 am ---By the way, I just can't help it. You act as if the Pinky picture produced was manufactured. It is only displaying what the original code is directing.
--- End quote ---
Me either ;D The "close up" pictures you showed were not close up shots of the game display, rather photos of a magnified MAME screen capture (unless you want us to believe that your mouse cursor is really that tiny, or that your LCD panel lacks the tiny grids inherent to all cell based display technologies ;) ) So they don't really show the detail of the output of the card at game time.
BTW, you should really look into the -prescale option that has existed in the last 7+ versions of MAME. Prescale does exactly what you want with just about any video card. The value you give the option is the multiplier used to scale the pixels before it is handed off to any further processing or effects. IOW, with a -prescale value of 2, each native game pixel becomes a 2x2 pixel array for a total of 4 on-screen pixels. A value of three becomes a 3x3 array for 9 on-screen pixels and so on. From that point, you can either add effects, stretching, etc...or not, if that's your preference.
I'll see if I can take a picture of this setup when I find a few minutes, then we can compare.
RandyT
genesim:
Randy,
If you notice that is why I left the cursor in BOTH pictures. Nothing sly here.
You cannot blow up the pictures with any real comparison(my camera just can't do it), but the results are the same. All you have to do is just crop the pictures I have posted and you will still see the difference.
But hey, just keep putting the card down, and I will continue to use it. I see with my own eyes, and this display is superior.
I have been tempted to go to my arcade to further show the difference. I will probably post more pictures later.
RandyT:
--- Quote from: genesim on July 24, 2007, 07:26:33 pm ---You cannot blow up the pictures with any real comparison(my camera just can't do it), but the results are the same. All you have to do is just crop the pictures I have posted and you will still see the difference.
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Not really. In order to get the true feel for the display, comparisons of actual detail are necessary. Otherwise, why should anyone assume that there is any difference between the results I achieved (and posted photos of) on my LCD and what you are claiming is the case with yours?
--- Quote ---But hey, just keep putting the card down, and I will continue to use it. I see with my own eyes, and this display is superior.
--- End quote ---
I'm not putting the card down. Just waiting for you to show something in the way of actual output that is over and above what can be achieved with virtually any DirectDraw capable display device when the proper options are set in MAME.
RandyT
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