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| Chris G:
I would like to do at least one of them as PS/2. Doesn't matter to me which. If I can only do one, any recommendations (trackball vs spinner)? [I'm single-handledly going to cause Randy to rethink this high level of customer service he provides. :timebomb:] |
| u_rebelscum:
--- Quote from: RandyT on March 01, 2007, 02:31:39 am --- --- Quote from: rockin_rick on March 01, 2007, 12:40:42 am ---I still would appreciate input about different mouse speeds not effecting mame, though... --- End quote --- I have to admit, I don't yet fully understand the dynamic between XP and MAME. It's possible that the mouse input code on newer versions of MAME aren't affected by the desktop settings, or it may be an XP thing. But if you are seeing no differences in MAME with higher pointer speeds under XP, apparently there is something very different as opposed to how it works with 98SE and 2K. I just did a quick test under 98SE and 2K... I will conduct the same tests under XP (with the same MAME version) to see if the desktop settings are used or ignored. But they do make a big difference under 2K and 98SE. --- End quote --- Thanks for testing, Randy! One funny thing is that different parts in MS documentation of directInput say that it should not make a difference. IIRC, most mice I tested on my Win9x systems years ago agreed, however, with your test results. But one or two mice didn't, and instead matched MS's documents. I thought it was dependent on the driver used, not the physical mouse, but I couldn't prove it. Other thing to note is mame (now) uses RawInput in XP, which might be where the differences are, not the OS exactly. IOW, if mame went back to directInput, XP might behave the same as 98 in spinner speeds; I though it did before the switch. |
| rockin_rick:
--- Quote from: u_rebelscum on March 02, 2007, 07:54:17 pm ---Other thing to note is mame (now) uses RawInput in XP, which might be where the differences are, not the OS exactly. IOW, if mame went back to directInput, XP might behave the same as 98 in spinner speeds; I though it did before the switch. --- End quote --- Do you know what version of MAME made the transition from DirectInput to RawInput? Does MAME fallback to DirectInput if the OS is not XP (and thus RawInput is not available)? Rick |
| Silver:
--- Quote from: Derrick Renaud on March 01, 2007, 12:00:38 pm --- I have written my findings on this in the past and have mentioned that it should be put in a faq somewhere, but never has as far as I can tell. --- End quote --- Paraphrased and shoved on a page in the wiki. Hope thats cool. http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/wiki/Info_on_Serial/PS2/USB_Mouse_%27Polling%27 Incidentally you have a page on setting up analog conrtols/multiple mice in mame somewhere? I'm sure I saw one designed for the recent anaolg changes to mame, but I may have imagined it. That could be good on the wiki.... |
| u_rebelscum:
--- Quote from: rockin_rick on March 02, 2007, 10:08:01 pm ---Do you know what version of MAME made the transition from DirectInput to RawInput? Does MAME fallback to DirectInput if the OS is not XP (and thus RawInput is not available)? --- End quote --- #1 0.104u5 was the first, but there were fixes in later versions. #2 Yes. In fact, it's coded so that if there's only one mouse, it falls back to DI. For example, w2k can use RI but since w2k is limited to only one mouse, it always falls back to DI. |
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