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Bye-bye Blu-Ray...we hardly knew ye
leapinlew:
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I'm not ready for HD in any format. I'm fine with DVD's. I'm ready for one of the formats to go away and all future titles to be released on a disc that contains both HD and SD. I think thats the only way for one of these formats to gain hold. I might be in the minority here - but I don't see a real upgrade from SD to HD.
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You should get your eyes checked then. The difference is there, and it's very noticable. make sure you watch HD content on an HD set though, not on that 25" CRT....
:dunno
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Obviously the difference isn't that noticeable. I just said I didn't notice it. If you have to convince me it's there - it's not. I do have my eyes examined - and I need glasses. Even with them on, I don't see all the hype. If the picture is sharper - it isn't THAT much sharper. Not enough to justify the expense of replacing my catalog and equipment.
Going from tape to digital makes sense. Lots of advantages. Going from digital to better digital just doesn't do it for me. If you see the difference as worth it, good for you, but it doesn't mean everyone else does.
pointdablame:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on January 22, 2007, 03:51:49 pm ---Responding to responses.
#1. Yes the blueray players can be combo drives, that is a given, but hddvd players don't need two lasers to play dvds as it is an expasion of the format. In other words, when you buy a blueray combo drive, you pay not only for the expensive blue laser, but the traditional red one as well. On top of that combo drives are expensive to begin with. So I'll repeat what I said in more clearer terms.... stand alone hddvd players are backwards compatable, while blueray players are not.
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Just a note. HD-DVD uses a 405 nanometer blue laser. HD-DVD uses a similar blue laser like BluRay, despite it's name. That was the crux of my statement, and the reason you are wrong. Prices are falling though anyway, so it's not really a huge deal.
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on January 22, 2007, 03:51:49 pm ---#2. Sony did not make cd or dvd formats, nor did they "help" to make them. I'm not talking about what they USED, I'm talking about what they MADE. Any format that sony designs is doomed to failure. I don't know why, maybe they are cursed, but they've never made a successful, universal format. Yes schmokes as crazy as it sounds, the fact that sony made it could doom the format. It has nothing to do with my dislike of sony though, they just tend to produce bad technology, or technology that isn't cost-effective ect.... At least when it comes to storage formats, they make great televisions.
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I guess you can play semantics about "made" and standardized or what have you.. but the fact is that Sony and Philips standardized the Compact Disc format. Go read up on it. It's not like I'm just pulling it from thin air. They were also in the DVD consortium, which is a far different situation from creating the format, but they still had a critical role in the adoption and creation of the format as we know it.
But yeah, they really are pretty horrible at going it alone when it comes to media formats.
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on January 22, 2007, 03:51:49 pm ---#4. ...And no I didn't come out acting like I know which one is going to win, I said right in my post that a curve ball could come around and change the tide, BUT as is it's all hddvd.
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This just lead me to believe you had some insight to it no one else did....
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on January 22, 2007, 03:51:49 pm ---hd dvd is going to win, for the following reasons....
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--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on January 22, 2007, 03:51:49 pm ---All I was saying is IF there is to be a winner it'll be hddvd.
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Seems like a bit of clairvoyance to me. :dunno
Some good points though, and I agree with all about the indifference.
Barry Barcrest:
Total Hi-Def discs.... Nuff Said.
Harry Potter:
I can't believe this but I'm on the same opinion of HD as Chad.
Couldn't really care less until the stuff gets way cheaper and bug have been hammered out of it. As far as DVDs were concerned, I got my first player 18 months ago. Sure it wasn't the cheapest (one of the first with DVI outputs) but the quality of the DVI output was worth it.
I'm gonna wait to see who the last man (disc ) standing in this one before going ahead with any purchase.
And I can't give a crap about HD broadcasts myself. Not because I'm blind, but because I have about 100 channels on Cable TV in SD with good content as opposed to commercial HD-TV with 5 channels of bull-crap.
AlanS17:
I guess I fall into the early adopter camp, but I still haven't bought a hi-def player for myself yet. I'm waiting to find out which format will win. If a clear winner is decided (or at least it becomes apparent that there won't be a winner) then I won't feel bad about dropping $500 for a quality player. I use Netflix anyways, so the cost of discs doesn't bother me. Chances are, though, that I would just buy a PS3 and go BluRay if it comes out as a tie.
I've got an HDTV and a DirecTV HD Tivo. There's no turning back for me. Anything in SD just looks blurry to me now. I just ought a new Onkyo A/V receiver with dual HDMI input and analog-to-digital upconversion with HDMI output so I'm really jumping in head first. I say "bring on the HD"!