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Bye-bye Blu-Ray...we hardly knew ye
pointdablame:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on January 21, 2007, 08:07:09 am ---Lots of wrong info...
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Sorry Howard, but you really need to stop talking as if you KNOW how this will end when you don't even know what you are talking about.
- It has already been announced that porn will be on BluRay, I don't even agree with your (hopefully partially sarcastic) opinion, but there will be porn on BluRay. So all you guys hoping for super hi def ass pimples can rejoice. I mean... its porn.. its going to be everywhere. Let's face it.
- BluRay players are backwards compatible with standard DVDs and are usually upconverting DVD players. Just go to BestBuy.com or similar and you would have seen that.
- Sony formats - hahaha. wow, dude. I know you love MS and you seem to hate Sony... but are you serious?!? At the risk of sounding like a Sony fanboy for a moment... you do realize that for every UMD and BetaMax, there was a CD and 3.5" floppy right? Sony helped create both of those..Did the COMPACT DISC fail? They also created Video8 which was a pretty popular format. And oh yeah, they had a hand in the initial DVD consortium as well. I guess DVD was a failure too? Yes they've had quite a few failures (yikes.. UMD) but you clearly don't know what you are talking about here. It's fun to bash Sony cuz it loves proprietary stuff, but your "info" is so wrong its frightening.
- HD-DVDs are 15gig single layer and 30gig dual layer. BluRay are 25gig single/50gig dual. While I agree that you don't really need that much space yet, you're way off on your numbers. And it has a very real chance of making a difference. Your Serenity rip already won't fit on a single layer HD-DVD
I agree with your cost analysis, but only for now. There are players in the works that will play both HD-DVD and BluRay in the same box, and given 12-18months, the cost differences will be minimal. While BluRay is more expensive now, there has already been a lot of price movement on both sides. You can get an HD-DVD player for $500 and a BluRay player for $800 already. Still a major difference, but the gap is shrinking VERY fast.
Those combo discs are a good idea though, and I think its a good move. I also think that HD-DVD has a leg up in name alone as HD-DVD portrays a much friendlier consumer image when compared to "BluRay" I frankly don't care what format wins as I won't be purchasing either for years, just like you, until I see a clearer picture of the environment. Maybe you should lay off how "sure" you are of what's going to happen though... or at least read a bit.
boykster:
--- Quote from: leapinlew on January 21, 2007, 02:47:11 am ---Also -
I'm not ready for HD in any format. I'm fine with DVD's. I'm ready for one of the formats to go away and all future titles to be released on a disc that contains both HD and SD. I think thats the only way for one of these formats to gain hold. I might be in the minority here - but I don't see a real upgrade from SD to HD.
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You should get your eyes checked then. The difference is there, and it's very noticable. make sure you watch HD content on an HD set though, not on that 25" CRT....
:dunno
sirwoogie:
Yeah, I'm in the same boat as many of you. I'm in a wait-and-see on the format war. I love HD when done right. Viewing a strong-signal OTA at 720p on a nice large screen properly calibrated is breathtaking :notworthy:. After everything is sorted and things are all 1080p, this will be great.
The driving factor for me is not the off-line media, but that broadcast HD hasn't picked up enough for me to justify all the added expense. Most cable/sat providers barely offer more than 10 HD channels (not counting locals). Once E*, D*, and cable providers have more variety and dump HD-lite, that will be my green light. 2007 should be an interesting year in the delivery, but it's all speculation at this point. We also have the whole HDCP thing going on, which makes interoperability questionable at best until they all sort it out. I think the inference that porn will decide the format is not exactly applicable anymore. As more and more people get high-speed Internet, porn will go more that delivery mechanism methinks.
For now, a 36" CRT will do fine. Watching SD, even when tweaked is just irritating on a HDTV. :hissy:
shardian:
A 720p broadcast on a 720p native tv is awesome. I don't see how a 1080p can improve much on that, and if it does it cannot be that noticeable.
Saying that, I believe it is cbs that broadcasts in 1080i. This on a 720 native tv downconverted does not look as good.
NiN^_^NiN:
The fact is almost every single format sony made themselfs (not took part in) failed in the mainsteam (altho beta was and is used still sometimes at tv stations)
Mini Disc UMB beta memory stick etc
Sure they help create some nice products but when they do it themselfs they don't have some level headed person saying that its a bad idea
i think thats what Howard was getting at their own formats almost always = dud to start off with.
Also there is already a porn title for blueray and alot of manufactures are looking into hybrid disk like when dvds first came out the doubble sided disks this time its blueray on one side hd dvd the other.
Also I think hd dvd will win caus eits easier for dumber people to notice they think hey its dvd but for my hd tv cool
The amount of times i got questions asked about what umd was when they saw the movies is a good indication on how most consumers who will buy this who aren't a big tech head will go with something they know and the hd dvd name is something they will know and get