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Bye-bye Blu-Ray...we hardly knew ye
jbox:
--- Quote from: leapinlew on January 21, 2007, 02:44:15 am ---Then why did they make those porno boxes so big? Anyone remember those things? They were like 18"X12"x8".
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You forgot to add the obligatory "or so I've been told". ;)
Howard_Casto:
hd dvd is going to win, for the following reasons....
1. The porn thing. Even though it doesn't seem logical to most, consumers want porn on every single item they have. If there was a microwave that played porno's it'd be the highest selling microwave in the history of microwaves. If the consumer is given two similar choices, one that can play pron and one that can't, they'll take the porn everytime. It doesn't even mean they'll watch porn on it, it's one of those "just in case" deals. And while I don't think blue-ray is gonna be porn free, the trend in the adult industry seems to be to support hd dvd.
2. Backwards compatability. It is my understanding that hd dvd players will be able to play standard dvds as well. People are more than willing to re-buy Lord of the Rings in hi-def, but not so much Stuck on You. The ability to have one box that'll play both is a huge deal. If it weren't then I wouldn't be able to walk into any store and STILL buy a vhs/dvd combo unit.
3. Buy Now, Enjoy Later. Right now you can buy what they are calling "combo discs" that contain a film in both dvd and hd dvd on teh same disc, for the same price. People that lack the hd tv and/or hd player are going to be able to buy these now and when they upgrade they won't have to re-buy the films. Afaik blueray does not offer these combo discs.
4. Cost vs Specs benefit. Blue Ray and hd dvd are virtually the same, same resolution, same feature set, ect. Blue ray can hold 60 gigs of data, while the hddvd can only hold 50. That really isn't a big deal when you consider that Serenity, the first hddvd film to be ripped is only 20 gigs. That includes extras, outtakes, langauge tracks, ect. It'll be a hell of a long time before we fill up a whole disc from a normal feature. Now keeping all of this in mind, blue lasers (used for blue ray) are infinately more difficult to build (and thus are more expensive) compared to hd dvd's red laser, which is merely an improvment upon the already established dvd laser. On average the blue ray player or a blue ray burner will cost twice as much as an hd dvd one. This isn't expected to change for a while either.
5. The Sony Factor. Did you know that Sony has introduced over a dozen media formats? Did you know that out of those twelve only one wasn't a complete embarrassment sales wise? Out of all their attempts the only format that sort of caught on was the mini disc, and then only in japan. Sony is cursed to fail at any format they introduce. They hoped to fix this inrecent years by cramming formats down our throats via their consoles (umd and blue ray respectively) but it didn't work on the psp and by all accounts it isn't working on the ps3, because, well, nobody is buying the thing.
6. The Microsoft Factor. No I'm not talking about the 360, that isn't going to determine anything... I'm talking about Vista. Vista and Xp already support hd dvd drives fully, not so much with the blue ray. So when Vista is released and the consumers start the next big computer buying spree to have the first model line "officially vista compatable" they are more likely to have a hddvd built in than a blueray drive. This is more influential than you might think as pc games are commonly stored on the same disc format as movie players. M$ is hddvd all the way, meaning pc games are gonna start being released on hddvd, meaning if you want to play em, you need a hddvd drive.
So IF one of these two formats will be adopted, and IF something else isn't added to their specs/support to change the balance of power, you can put your money on hd dvd.
With that being said, I ain't buying nuttin till players get down to a reasonable price and we are sure all of our stuff isn't just going to be downloaded directly to the tv.
Thenasty:
so WTH did Debbie do in Dallas :dizzy:
mr.Curmudgeon:
Everybody.
AtomSmasher:
I know quality doesn't have much to do with it as the vhs/beta war showed, but a friend of mine has a stand alone hd-dvd player and a ps3 and the blue-ray movies look a fair amount better then the hd-dvd.
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