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Wells Gardner U3100 vs PC-monitor -worth it?
Carsten Carlos:
Yep, THAT freight-costs are really a killer!
I saw the universal-mounts at Happ, too. They simply forgot to update this, I guess. If you add the U3100 to your shopping-cart, it somehow changes in a horizontal.
They are rather expensive at this at Happ, compared to the WellsGardner-side. I asked Happ-europe for freight-costs about this, well, we'll see, but I'm not that hopeful.
Oh, Frobozz, when you ever get hold of that digicam, I have always saved some email-space for you ;)
Frobozz:
Ugg, still waiting on it. Hopefully next week sometime. I apologize because for one day last week, the guy who has been using it was in, but I forgot to get it from him.
It would be a good thing too, because I have never seen any pictures online showing off the "scanlines" and picture quality of these things. I hope they come out.
Heh, I bribed my sister's boyfriend today (a professional carpenter and cabinet maker) to help me with my project (I sold him a very nice rifle I had for very very cheap :) As a bonus, because of his profession, he gets a severe discount on all building materials, and has a nice heated workshop to work in (especially important since it's winter over here with snow on the ground).
Carsten Carlos:
:) Today I got an answer from Happ Europe - they ship the U3100 with $47 freight costs - we are getting better!
:( On the other hand, Happ only has the more expensive U3100 WGM1931-M2TS26H.
Frobozz, you said that it is a higher grade chassis/tube, anyone here could explain me what I have to expect?
Anyway, all I want is that it shall look like an old arcade-monitor, somehow I fear that this more expensive-monitor might have less "scanlines"-effect?
Thanx to Zipper, I got this detail-pictures of the Hantarex - sorry, but this picture is far to perfect for me ;-)
If someone got pics of both types from the U3100, especially the more expensive one that Happ sells, I'd be very happy!
Frobozz:
I understand your concern. I was the same way. I could have gotten either, but my line of thought was:
Arcade machines had cruddy monitors, the "higher quality" one might not have the effect I'm looking for.
Unfortunatly, I STILL don't have access to a camera. Apparently, the guy who is using it will be out all week.
BUT, I have a friend who has one. I'll see if I can have him bring it over tonight. It's a cheap one, not like the nice Nikon we got at the office, but it'll hopefully show something.
Now, on the positive side, both monitors show the same dot pitch and statistics on WG's page, so their screens may be identical. The extra cash may only be for extra "quality control".
It would be nice to have a "Home Arcade - Monitor Comparison Website" set up somewhere. Because of all these rare monitors people like us use, it would be nice to have a site with close-up screen pictures for vector games, horizontal games (older and newer), vertical games (older and newer) and windows desktops. Also, mounting brackets, dimensional data (for cabinet planning), and gaussian effect due to rotation (some monitors are getter than others. My U3100 is terrible compared to my KDS Avitron on my PC. I'll definatly be buying an exernal degaussing wand.)
Heck, ArcadeControls would probably host the info if somebody just compiled it. :)
Zipper:
;D That would be a really interesting site should someone decide to host and build it.
The problems would be -
[*]The resolutions on digital cameras vary, so even the clearest monitor can look bad with the wrong camera resolution / lighting.[*]Different video cards produce different results.[*]If T.V.s are included, then you could send video by a few different methods too[/list]
As long as people submitting photos say what video output method / card / camera resolution they were using, then the information would be very useful!
It does stand to reason though - that if you want a true arcade look - then get a true arcade monitor.
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