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Cocktail "Flipping" Mode
paigeoliver:
Also note that some games that are two player simultaneous that have a cocktail dip actually change to alternating if you enable it.
NOP:
--- Quote from: turbo6 ---Not sure if the "Romlister" proggy would find these or not??? Just trying to bring these options to light for those with cocktail machines who did not know. :)
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It absolutely would not. I looked at MAME's xml output for Blast Off and there is no mention whatsoever of anything cocktail in the description, and then I looked at controls.xml and it too says cocktail=0.
I've got big-time mixed feelings about this. First I'm bummed that my software isn't going to locate all of the ROMs that might play on your machine, and I'm overwhelmed by the feeling of having to manually poke around in all the ROMs to locate these hidden cocktail modes, however, I'm excited that I may be able to include some of the games that I'd written off as not working on my machine! whew! :D
well, we will have to keep working by hand to build up lists like turbo6 has done.
I'll gladly host them, although perhaps a wiki entry is a better idea, then people can add their own discoveries to it...
-jeff!
turbo6:
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on March 14, 2007, 08:04:40 am ---Also note that some games that are two player simultaneous that have a cocktail dip actually change to alternating if you enable it.
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Yes that is true. Some of them you can change "Upright Controls" setting from Duel to Single which allows cocktail to work properly. There are a few games that have this setting that you may need to change, so when the screen flips for Player 2 the joystick will work as Player 2 and not Player 1.
On another note... about screen being turned to Player 2 (at game startup) when changing the dips to cocktail. Jungle King (Japan) does this, all I did was use the Mame settings in the "Display Tab" and check "Flip screen upside-down" and "Flip screen left-right" and all is OK. :applaud:
I figured more people would be interested in the .ini file for their cocktail machines... maybe not as many people with cocktail arcades than I thought there would be. :dunno
turbo6:
--- Quote from: NOP on March 14, 2007, 09:54:01 am ---
It absolutely would not. I looked at MAME's xml output for Blast Off and there is no mention whatsoever of anything cocktail in the description, and then I looked at controls.xml and it too says cocktail=0.
I've got big-time mixed feelings about this. First I'm bummed that my software isn't going to locate all of the ROMs that might play on your machine, and I'm overwhelmed by the feeling of having to manually poke around in all the ROMs to locate these hidden cocktail modes, however, I'm excited that I may be able to include some of the games that I'd written off as not working on my machine! whew! :D
well, we will have to keep working by hand to build up lists like turbo6 has done.
I'll gladly host them, although perhaps a wiki entry is a better idea, then people can add their own discoveries to it...
-jeff!
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That's too bad, I was hoping Romlister would find them all... I guess we'll have to continue compiling by hand... as I'm sure several games have been added or fixed since my .ini file was created. I don't usually update Mame on a regular basis though. The PC I'm gonna use in the cocktail machine is pretty slow (PII-400) so i'll probably stick to my full set for version 0.90. But my list was made back in version 0.70-something, so still there's probably work to be done for myself anyway.
It would be nice if there was a Wiki entry for this but thats not something I have a clue about doing, maybe someone with experience could write something up... :dunno
NOP:
I've started a wiki entry:
http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/wiki/Lists
It's very, very rough at the moment but it's a start. If you find a new game, just click the edit button and type it in!
It may be nice to eventually just link to separate wiki pages for vertical+horizontal cocktail lists or however else we'd like to break them up.
There are also games like gauntlet, which is 100% not cocktail, but can absolutely be configured to work on a cocktail machine. We may want to list those somewhere else too. Ugh.
-jeff!