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acevedor2:
Thanks Miles.  I appreciate it. 

I understand the concern Lew and I am sure you are right about the trackball/spinner.  That said I plan on completing the cardboard layout before I actually put it together, just to double check it.  Additionally, you will notice that the spinner is now offset to the right as opposed to directly on top of the trackball - based on all of the feedback I got :)  Moving it off completely to the side just didn't work for me. 

I have seen Ultimarc's 360s, but I I wanted the traditional joys.  Plus with  the USB trackball and IPAC already, I didn't want to add two morw USB devices.  And I do realize that USB hubs are only about 4 bucks.

I do disagree though that doing an all in one will reduce the functionality of the CP.  Again, I haven't finished the cardboard cutout, but I think there is plenty of space between the controls to allow for great functionality AND flexibility.

Thanks again though for all of the input.  It really is invaluable to get the opinions of people who have actually built these and experienced different issues.  Lots of great lessons learned as I have found out from this thread.  Cheers!
extremepong:
When I made my one and only panel I just set it up for my favorite games. Defender, Battlezone, Missile Command etc.   Then I threw in extras as needed.  So, if you like Defender  or Stargate you might ask if this is how you would like to play it.  Also, I decided that my cab project would have some controls off the panel (near the monitor, for example) since the novelty of the coin and start buttons has worn off for me and they just seem to waste space. I thought I might have a Pause button or an Escape available off the panel. But this decision is also related to my next effort  to have removable panels for different game genres (to accommodate racing games, etc.)  Also I used a removable joystick so I can lift out the handle and this permits  access to my Defender Thrust and Fire buttons. Also, I may use some missile command type buttons  for my non-essential buttons since they are smaller.
BamBam:

--- Quote from: Tahnok on January 02, 2007, 02:55:28 pm ---Not everyone is going to agree with these changes, but here's my suggestions. I can email you back the changed visio file if you'd like.

Move the trackball buttons above the trackball, or get rid of them. If you're worried about people not understanding the panel, buttons on either side of the trackball and positioned rather closely to the P1 controls is really going to throw them. I have buttons above my trackball and never hit them. Unlike the spinner, I think they're low enough to not cause problems. You might just get rid of them all together, since anything they do can be replicated with the P1 buttons.

The joysticks and buttons have been aligned and spread apart a little bit. It's just a comfort thing. Try it with a mockup, see if you like it.

I recommend keeping the a coin button for both players. It seems like people understand it better if they both get to "insert" their own coins with their own buttons.

You can either keep of get rid of the spinner buttons. Either way, I don't think they're causing problems.

Did you want that four-way that was in the visio file (I'm not sure, since it's not on any of your layouts)? I recommend against it, since the panel is starting to get a bit cluttered and it only does something that the Mag-sticks already do.

Edit: just noticed that the buttons and joystick are still not aligned perfectly. The buttons are supposed to be just a bit higher.

--- End quote ---

This is similar to my layout and I contantly hit my right hand on Joystick 2 when using the trackball.
acevedor2:
Thanks Bam, I appreciate it.  It turns out because I measured wrong, the panel will actually be about 3/4 of an inch wider.  I will use most of that and move the right joystick out a little.  Thanks again.
acevedor2:
Bam, what is the distance between the center of your trackball, and the center of Joystick 2.  I don't want to run into the same problem with hitting the joystick every time I use the trackball.  Can you measure yours and give me the center to center distance (cenmter of trackball to center of joy). 

Also if anyone else can measure theirs and let me know the distance I would appreciate it.


Thanks!
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