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| whatzcrackn:
--- Quote from: lloydcom on December 28, 2006, 05:31:28 pm --- --- Quote from: saint on December 27, 2006, 10:38:40 pm ---In Lloyd and anyone else's defense, the rules were conflicting and ambiguous in this area. Lloyd is not theonly one who has raised such a concern. I appreciate everyone helping to keep BYOAC out of hot water :) --- End quote --- Sorry Saint, I want to make it perfectly clear, that you and your site endorse and condone modding of consoles and selling chipped consoles on your site. Is this correct? --- End quote --- :-* |
| boykster:
--- Quote from: lloydcom on December 28, 2006, 05:31:28 pm ---Sorry Saint, I want to make it perfectly clear, that you and your site endorse and condone modding of consoles and selling chipped consoles on your site. Is this correct? --- End quote --- Is it possible for you to just drop it? Who died and elected you grand chancellor of what is right and wrong when it comes to consoles? The new policy clearly states that IF it is shown that modding consoles are illegal in the USA, that this discussion would be curtailed. NO offense lloyd, but were you dropped on your head as a child? |
| lloydcom:
Whew! It took me a total of 15 minutes to find the information I was looking for. The internet is great, but navigation needs looking into. I mean search engines and google is great, but it puts a new meaning to going around in circles. I found the section you guys need reading. Its a scary section, and needs rethinking, that if you indeed do these types of things, you might want to do it quietly and to yourself. http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap12.html Chapter 12 says it all. I wish I took the time to research the subject before going in guns firing and all that. I am not a person who likes to point certain facts like this out, but I am a person who is sick and tired of individuals breaking the law and saying it is ok to do it. I'll cut it down to these three paragraphs: § 1201. Circumvention of copyright protection systems2 (a) Violations Regarding Circumvention of Technological Measures. - (1)(A) No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title. (A) to "circumvent a technological measure" means to descramble a scrambled work, to decrypt an encrypted work, or otherwise to avoid, bypass, remove, deactivate, or impair a technological measure, without the authority of the copyright owner; and (B) a technological measure "effectively controls access to a work" if the measure, in the ordinary course of its operation, requires the application of information, or a process or a treatment, with the authority of the copyright owner, to gain access to the work There is more, including the section about changes to the law regarding obsolete systems. Other words, emulators. Once you open the plastic box and insert the chip you are breaking the law, unless you got permission first.. Selling an item under this statement.... well I 'll leave that up to you. You are all intelligent individuals here, and it should take 2 seconds to figure out. I'll go a bit further and ask you if you got permission from Microsoft to mod your chip. If so, then you are legal. I love homebrew, also like the idea, and also the economic mechanics behind it. It sells the console, but there is a risk attached to it a risk I would not like to be put before a court, before my family, my employer or ISP. I'm sure you think I'm a real jerk for pointing this out, spoiling your fun, telling you how to run your business or life, well I'm really sorry about that. Really truly sorry. But if I can make a small difference to a world going bad, is it such a crime? Let's all of us make a new year resolution: Say no to modding consoles. :angel: *Edit:* There is a provision to the law that says the limitations of the law diminishes after 5 years of the date of the offense. So if you did mod your xbox in Dec 2001, you won't go to jail for 10 years or pay a $500,000.00 fine. Hope you keep your receipts. ;) |
| whatzcrackn:
:tool: Dude you are crapping in Snaakes cereal, man. If it was an issue with the board, it would have been sent to 'Post Hell' being that it is still here and you keep crying :hissy: about it, I would just start your own post. Let Snaake make his money and keep the :spam: on your dinner table. |
| Jess--:
as I see it adding a modchip to a console is no different to modifying anything else, if I take a video recorder sold in this country (UK Pal standard) and modify the circuit (with a couple of chips) to enable me to play an american NTSC video. now think about it, the hardware to play ntsc video's on a pal TV was not readily available (until about 2 years ago), as long as the video I am watching is not a pirate copy I am doing nothing illegal, I am not attempting to bypass copyright, In buying the original cassette I have supported the artists / studios. the only people that may not be happy about what I have done is the manufacturer of my video recorder as they never intended it to be able to play these tapes (so there goes my warranty) modchips have uses other than bypassing copyright protection systems, but I have used them in the past to enable a friends ps2 to play backup disks (note the word backup) he owned all of the original disks but his son had a habit of losing his temper and smashing disks, once I fitted his chip he kept all of his originals well out of the way of his son and only gave his son the copies. when the copy became damaged it was replaced with a fresh copy from his original (rather than having to go and buy the game that he already owned again). regardless of what some people think This is NOT the place to be discussing this, Saint (the owner of this site) has already said that he has no problems with the items for sale and as far as I am concerned that is the final word on this matter in this thread. I would suggest that people wanting to discuss this further take it to the consoles forum rather than here. |
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