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AlanS17:


--- Quote from: danny_galaga on December 16, 2006, 11:51:07 pm ---unless we develop a new technology to synthesise photosynthesis...

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We already have one. It's called solar power.  ;)

jbox:


--- Quote from: AlanS17 on December 16, 2006, 10:25:07 pm ---Well having electric cells doesn't solve the problem of fossil fuels.

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Huh, where did I say that?  ???

I said having better electric cells eliminates needing hydrogen cells, I didn't say it eliminated the problem of needing hydro, wind, solar and geo power. Not to mention the fact that many, many, many countries have plenty of coal, LPG, animal ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---'s and god knows what else to burn to make electricity, all of which reduces the importance of oil geopolitically even if it doesn't solve the (alleged) climate change problem. Actually, ironically the people who don't believe in human-causation should be more pro-electric because it means you finally cut off those anti-Christian, err, I mean "Pro-Freedom Allies" like Saudi Arabia.  :applaud:

Seriously, apart from being emotionally important to chemisty and physics as "The First One", the only thing hydrogen really has going for it is the stupid amount of media coverage it gets, while companies developing (for example) new solar cells which increase the productivity by 200% or maybe reduce the cost by 40% by developing a process for printing cells using standard printer methodologies, don't get a mention because "solar technology is old news".  :banghead:

Hydrogen is pushed so hard because if all of the "renewable energy" budget goes into hydrogen the same old energy companies will make a killing AT THE SAME TIME as being able to pretend they are fluffy bunnies who like to hug puppies and pick flowers.  :applaud:

AlanS17:


--- Quote from: jbox on December 17, 2006, 06:49:31 am ---
--- Quote from: AlanS17 on December 16, 2006, 10:25:07 pm ---Well having electric cells doesn't solve the problem of fossil fuels.

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Huh, where did I say that?  ???

I said having better electric cells eliminates needing hydrogen cells, I didn't say it eliminated the problem of needing hydro, wind, solar and geo power.

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That's fine. Replace the word "electric" with the word "hydrogen". And I'm not just addressing oil. I'm addressing all fossil fuels as a non-renewable resource.

ChadTower:


The best near term solution is BioDiesel.  That's where the politics prevent progress.

AlanS17:

Are there ways to create biodiesel without recycling grease? That method doesn't lend itself well to mass-production.

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