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odysseyroc:
I would rather pay $200 for the Wii and use that extra dough to get a game I really want. If I can walk into Target and get a Wii, then I'll be buying one, but I have no interest at all in that Sports game that comes with it.
Zero_Hour:
--- Quote from: shmokes on November 09, 2006, 02:42:31 pm ---Tickle Me Elmo is not a mainstream product. It's a kid's toy. My point is that Nintendo is trying to expand the market beyond traditional gamers, while those systems you were pointing to were not aimed at people in general, but to a specific group of people -- gamers.
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I guess this is where we choose to disagree. The majority of the early ads for Atari and Intellivision ads were aimed at Kids and Families. Check out the "Have you Played Atari Today?" ad on youtube for a good laugh at the 'gamers'.
--- Quote ---Anyway, it makes more sense to judge it by today's standards. How is Nintendo suddenly bucking tradition with a mass-market price that is higher than their last system? The Gamecube cost $199. The Wii is going to opt out of the arms race and give us an unheard of mainstream price of $250 ? ? ?
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You're right, I forgot about the GC, which in adjusted dollars was nintendos least expensive system launch. I don't think I ever described the Wii's price as unheard of, just that it was one of the lowest for a console launch when considering all major console prices in adjusted dollars, sorry if that wasn't clear.
--- Quote ---The Sega Saturn and Dreamcast were both sold at a loss.
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Point taken, but look where it got Sega - completely out of the hardware market. Nintendo would be incredibly stupid to sell at a loss, if they don't have to, and it would appear that they don't.
--- Quote ---Dunno about N64. Playstation was presumably sold at a loss, considering it was more powerful than the Saturn, which was selling at a loss, and they brought it to America at $299 while it was $499.
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I can't find any evidence that either the PSone or PS2 were ever sold at a loss. I'm not saying they weren't just that I've never even heard it suggested until the XBOX hit the scene. Sony does have the advantage of having it's own manufacturing facilities, where MS has a third party doing all of theirs. If sony sold either of their consoles at a loss, I doubt it was for very long. I have no doubt that the PS3 will be sold at a loss simply from the Blu-Ray and Cell processor costs.
--- Quote ---Anyway . . . I'm just not that amazed by a $250 price point from Nintendo. They were going on and on about the incredibly low price for months before they finally announced it.
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Well it may not be unheard of, but I'll be happy to pay it.
And HooPZ I was waiting for an Intellivision owner to remind me of how crappy Atari's graphics were - But man did I hate that goofy controller. ;D
Hoopz:
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And HooPZ I was waiting for an Intellivision owner to remind me of how crappy Atari's graphics were - But man did I hate that goofy controller. Grin
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You must be thinking of Colecovision! ;D
I always thought it was easy to use, but then I played it all the time. I would think, in retrospect, it really was a pre-cursor to the more advanced controllers that systems have today.
SirPoonga:
I would say the Wii has the same goal as the DS, it is targeted at everyone, not just gamers. I would say the DS is a little more targeted at gamers than the Wii.
I was looking at footage of Madden for the Wii. I'm not going to like it and I regularly get Madden titles. It didn't look hardcore football. It looked like it was bring football to the masses.
I think because of this new control method there are going to be games people never thought they would have played.
--- Quote ---I have no interest at all in that Sports game that comes with it.
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Why not? It isn't going to be like a traditional sports title. It's meant to show off the Wiimote's capabilities. The tennis doesn't really sound like a sports game as much as a waving your arms around. The ONLY thing you control is the swing. You don't control the movement of the character.
However, if the GC is any example it will drop in price in 6 months.
I'm probably going to get a Wii next spring if I get a good tax return.
odysseyroc:
--- Quote from: SirPoonga on November 09, 2006, 05:44:41 pm ---
Why not? It isn't going to be like a traditional sports title. It's meant to show off the Wiimote's capabilities. The tennis doesn't really sound like a sports game as much as a waving your arms around. The ONLY thing you control is the swing. You don't control the movement of the character.
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It just doesn't look all that interesting to me. I'll take it for free, but my point was if I could get the console for $200 and spend the rest of the dough on a game I really wanted then I'd be much happier. If that game wasn't bundled with the console would that be the game you bought with your console?