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nLited XP installs for a cab
GalagaFan74:
Well, being a former IT guy at the Prison I work at, I thought I'd chime in. Craig's "MameXP" does get the job done at slimming down XP, but you loose a lot of functionality. Definitely made for someone who is solely using their rig for an arcade cab, and if that's you then I highly recommend his version of XP. However, if you're like me and would like the computer to access the internet, share files, and have access to a printer then my recommendation would be to install a full version of XP and work your way down, so to speak. Use Black Viper's website (google it) to disable useless services using his "Tweaked" settings. Use "Add and Remove Programs" to get rid of Windows components such as; MSN Explorer, Messenger, and Outlook Express. Disable all the visual eye candy, and so on and so forth.
Craig, a couple things I have found that caused a problem for me when using "MAMEXP", outside of the lack of internet access, networking, and file sharing, is I couldn't install the .net framework, or some updates. I discovered that "Windows Installer" service had been disabled. This service is key to many programs being able to install and should be left running. Another thing was the "Windows Audio" service was disabled. When I tried to run a game in MAME through Maximus Arcade I would get a sound error. When I set "Windows Audio" to "Automatic" and started the service, the error cleared up. Also, without Windows Media Player, the opening movie I use for Maximus Arcade, which is in .wmv format, wouldn't play.
I may work up a guide to slim down a fully installed XP.
spystyle:
Hello IT guy :)
We'll have lots of questions for you so stick around :)
But first to reply to you. MAME-XP documentation states that audio and installer services need to be started manually. There are a few post install steps :
--- Quote from: MAME-XP documentation ---
MAME-XP rev5, by SpyStyle, January 29 2009
A super tiny XP that is perfect for MAME computers.
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Features:
Built on WinXP SP3
Minlogon for lightning fast boot
Driverpacks, so drivers are automatically installed
Uses only 41 MB of RAM (out of 192)
Only 3 services running
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Instructions :
Install this OS, deleting the existing partition (AKA a "clean install")
Once installed, click :
start > settings > control panel > administrative tools > services
(right click a service to modify it)
Enable "Windows Audio", set it to "automatic"
Disable "DCOM", set it to disabled
Disable "Criptographic", set it to disabled
Disable "Security", set it to disabled
Then restart
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The only services that need to be running are :
"Plug and play"
"Remote call procedure (RPC)"
"Windows Audio"
(do not disable any of the above)
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To navigate around click :
Start > Programs > Windows explorer
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To get a program to automatically start with windows:
Make a shortcut to it's executable, then place the shortcut under :
c:\documents and settings\default user\start menu\programs\startup
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To make that program start "maximized" (as opposed to in a window) :
Right click the shortcut, click "properties", and change the "run" drop down menu to "maximized"
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But I guess I forgot to mention the installer :)
Anyway MAME-XP is a stripped and skinny OS with low end hardware, fast boot, and small footprint in mind. It is skinny yet very compatible because it's XP SP3 and has Driverpacks added to it.
There is no internet or file sharing. To add ROMsets I'd use an external USB hard drive or thumbdrive.
It's my idea of a good OS that is specifically for arcade machine and not for desktop.
However it's not for everyone. Of course you can install full XP then disable superfluous services and adjust it for speed. I'd rather do it pre-install with Nlite, but it can be done post-install.
Once in a while I have to do it on a home computer, not reinstall the OS but optimize it. Here are a list of services I can disable from my notes, let me know what you think :)
--- Quote from: Windows XP service that can be disabled ---Alerter
Application Layer Gateway Service
Application Management
Automatic Updates
Background Intelligent Transfer Service
ClipBook
COM+ System Application
Computer Browser
Distributed Link Tracking Client
Distributed Transaction Coordinator
DNS Client
Error Reporting Service
Fax Service
Telephony
FTP Publishing Service
Help and Support
IIS Admin
IMAPI CD-Burning COM Service
Indexing Service
Internet Connection Firewall and Internet Connection Sharing
IPSEC Services
Logical Disk Manager
Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service
Message Queuing
Message Queuing Triggers
Messenger
MS Software Shadow Copy Provider
NetMeeting Remote Desktop Sharing
Network DDE
Network DDE DSDM
Network Location Awareness
Performance Logs and Alerts
Portable Media Serial Number
Print Spooler (disable on arcade machine but not home computer)
Protected Storage
QoS RSVP
Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
Remote Access Connection Manager
Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
Remote Procedure Call (RPC) Locator
Remote Registry
Removable Storage
RIP Listener
Routing & Remote Access
Secondary Logon
Security Accounts Manager
Server
Shell Hardware Detection
Simple Mail Transport Protocol (SMTP)
Simple TCP/IP Services
Smart Card (needed for Apple i-pod and i-tunes)
Smart Card Helper
SNMP Service
SNMP Trap Service
SSDP Discovery Service
Plug and Play Device Host
System Event Notification
System Restore Service
Task Scheduler
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper Service
TCP/IP Printer Server
Telephony
Telnet
Terminal Services
Themes
Uninterruptible Power Supply
Universal Plug and Play Device Host
Upload Manager
Volume Shadow Copy
WebClient
Windows Image Acquisition (WIA)
Windows Time
Wireless Zero Configuration (disable only on computer with no WiFi)
WMI Performance Adapter
Workstation
World Wide Web Publishing Service
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GalagaFan74:
Ahhhh, this is the downfall of being a self taught IT Guy, skimming over instructions, bad habit of mine. I didn't see the part on setting the Audio to automatic, I assumed it was an install and go. Well, we all know what assuming gets ya. I did initially try to use nlite to get the internet and network working. I used the check boxexes when the program starts up to pick the things I did not want deleted or disabled. That sort of worked. There was still a couple of hidden settings I had to find in the Device Manager to get it working. I figured for the not so computer literate person that would be too much of a hassle. But then again having that same person mess around with Services could lead to some sticky situations. :o I was also using Revision 3 of your LastSession file. I may have missed a post or two that contained Revision 5.
Your list of disabled services looks pretty spot on to what Black Viper has on his "Tweaked" services. Things like Network Location Awareness, Logical Disk Manager he has set to manual, and Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service he has set to Automatic. The latter I use to change drive letters. My USB dive I set to X: cause thats what all the Access databases are pointing to at my work, so when I bring them home, I don't have to change anything. I also have XP running on a separate partition from the rest of my programs (a habit I picked up from installing Vista and Windows 7, because those OS's are prety tight on security when it comes to the C: drive). So that second partition for me is Y:.
spystyle:
I can dig it :)
Welcome aboard, we can use an IT guy for sure.
One problem I had was with the power button not shutting windows down and powering off the computer. Instead it said "It is now safe to turn off your computer".
What did I remove with Nlite that caused this problem ?
Thanks,
Craig
p.s. Hey I asked for an IT Guy 4 times in this thread !
--- Quote from: spystyle on September 23, 2008, 07:29:26 pm ---Oh that's a good question! I think we discussed that earlier in this thread at length...
As for boot time - Hmmm, 25 seconds. Is that with Minlogon installed and the bios set up to post quickly?
What boots faster than MAME-XP? What are you comparing it to?
Have you considered hibernate mode? Can MAME-XP even do that?
So many questions ...
IT guy, where are you?
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--- Quote from: spystyle on September 28, 2008, 07:50:13 pm ---I think you could install a replacement shell for explorer, one that has the option to automatically launch an executable upon startup. I am not IT enough to comment further...
Oh IT guy, where are you?
This thread needs an official IT guy!
Cheers,
Craig
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--- Quote from: spystyle on January 11, 2010, 08:04:15 pm ---I always use Min-Logon, I love it as I'm a speed freak.
And yeah, I think different computers might require a different setting there - I'd like to find a way to change that setting post-install.
Where are the IT guys when I need them?
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--- Quote from: spystyle on May 26, 2010, 07:14:58 am ---Hey it's JakoBud !
I'd imagine you could just make a stripped XP as normal with Nlite, but leave most of the services in the networking folder.
Maybe an IT guy will chime in with the names of the specific services you need - this thread needs an official IT guy :)
Good luck!
Craig
--- End quote ---
I am always asking for an EE Guy here and an IT Guy there, then occasionally and Asian lady :)
GalagaFan74:
I had that problem too, I think it may have to do with a logon setting, but that's just a theory.
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