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nLited XP installs for a cab
DrewKaree:
--- Quote from: spystyle on August 20, 2007, 01:51:15 pm ---Hey! I just found out that Micro$oft made a "TinyXP" of their own! It's called "Windows fundamentals for legacy PCs" aka "Windows FLP"
Read about it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Fundamentals_for_Legacy_PCs
Apparently it's made for corporations who want to upgrade from "Windows 98" but can't afford to update their hardware. It could be thought of as "Windows XP for old computers". But how does it compare to "TinyXP Beast"?
I benchmarked them against each other on a P4 2.8 ghz Dell server. They scored almost exactly the same using "performance test" benchmarking software. (250 points for Beast and 248 points for WinFLP)
Windows FLP is not compatible with Bashrat's driverpacks, so you'll have to hunt down drivers (bummer). Also, when you first install it you have to mess with the user accounts (change administrator's password to blank) and disable Windows security alerts:
start > run > services.msc > Security Center... doubleclick... Startup type: "Disabled"
Also change the "virtual memory" to (1.5X actual RAM) min, and (3x actual RAM) max.
Lastly, it is missing "MSconfig.exe" so you'll have to download it off the 'net and drop it into the "windows" folder. (then you can type msconfig into the run box and edit what starts with windows)
All of the above is already done on "Beast"
But it's interesting anyway, M$ releases it's own TinyXP! I think it's in keeping with the theme of this thread. Most interesting to me is the fact that you can choose to not install Internet Explorer! I never would have thought that M$ would let that go!
Cheers,
Craig
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I snagged this version a while ago for some reason, but I never really looked into it. The one reason I'm assuming they allow non-installation of IE is that XP uses a newer version of IE that more than likely wouldn't work with the older video cards that would probably be in such machines. They won't even let you connect to the 'net to download the thing if your screen res doesn't meet minimum specs, IIRC.
For anyone considering it, nLite allows the complete removal of IE as well, and also breaks it out even further - you can choose to leave the IE core installed, in case some program requires it (I think there might have been an emulator or front end that required at least the core in order to work properly). Standard MAME doesn't require it at all.
It also appears that in taking a look recently, you can also slipstream your MAME setup into your installation disc with nLite or RunOnceEx (see the MSFN forums for exactly how you might go about doing such a thing). What this'd mean is that you'd have one disc (or DVD, or perhaps DVD sets - yes, it's possible) for install, and you just pop the disc(s) in when prompted, and let your PC chew on 'em for a while. When it's all done, your entire system can be already set up with MAME and the programs you desire. I'm not certain how well some registry tweaks can be integrated, but it appears that you can even customize your install disc to the extent that you have all the startup and login screens hidden (see the wiki to see what's possible to make your MAME system hide all traces of Windows!) and whatnot.
I've been slowly refining a disc for personal use - I think it came up in the past, so either here's a reminder, or a first-time tip: Find and install a Virtual Machine to use as a "sandbox" or "test bed" for your nLite'd ISO's.
spystyle:
That sounds like allot of work. I will leave all that work to you - and you can upload it to ---No torrents please - thanks!--- for the rest of us when you are done. Good?
Thank you!
Craig
p.s. As he wrote, test your ISOs "virtually" to save time and disks. M$ Virtual PC 2004 and 2007 are free:
http://tinyurl.com/2jr7a7
If your OS doesn't support 2007, try 2004.
DrewKaree:
--- Quote from: spystyle on August 20, 2007, 08:18:36 pm ---That sounds like allot of work. I will leave all that work to you - and you can upload it to ---No torrents please - thanks!--- for the rest of us when you are done. Good?
Thank you!
Craig
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;D
Much like all the rest of these "builds", there's no "magic ISO". I AM thinking of doing a writeup on how to have it dump files (roms, artwork, flyers, sound, etc) onto your PC in the proper place, but I can't distribute MAME, so that part of the writeup will have to be a tute in how to slipstream your own version into your install disc.
spystyle:
Awww, you're no fun...
Oh well. It really only takes a few minutes to install MAME anyway.
I'll keep doing it the hard way, it builds character!
RXII:
--- Quote from: spystyle on July 12, 2007, 09:56:34 pm ---
--- Quote from: RXII on July 10, 2007, 08:57:38 pm ---I have a 2.0ghz P4, 256mb Ram and and a 20gb HDD and have just installed Tiny XP "Beast Edition". I am very happy with the performance of the PC and now with Mala installed and a complete set of Mame v.106 I am ready to go. I have also used bootskin and TweakUI for a few things and the PC boots up to Mala in 30 seconds.....that's not too bad I guess. Any ideas on squeezing it a bit more??
Cheers,
Simon.
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Hey Simon,
You've got it to 30 seconds and would like to squeeze it a little more huh?
Try just swapping Winlogon with Minlogon and tell me if it makes a difference, use the attached file (readme included).
Cheers,
Craig
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everyone : the attached file should make any XP installation boot faster, give it a go on a "non critical" PC and tell me what you think.
This is just the first part of the embedding procedure seen above, but only takes a minute. It's said to increase boot speed because Winlogon performs so many tasks and Minlogon just boots as a user named "system".
If you are going to make modifications to your home PC always make backups of your irreplaceable data onto good quality DVD-r first.
On the topic of backups, make monthly backups! Hard drives are not considered a reliable means of permanent data storage. Some day you will thank me for this tip.
p.s. This file didn't work for me on a modified Win2K, I think it's not 2K compatible.
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Hi Craig,
Sorry I haven't gotten back to you, I haven't checked this thread for a while. I will let you know how I get on with this......thank you very much.
Simon
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