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nLited XP installs for a cab
rockin_rick:
The main benefit of SP1 is support for HD's larger than 137 GB. Also, my mobo sound drivers require SP1. But no SPs should be fine for most cab setups if your HD is small enough.
SP1 doesn't seem to add much to the boot time, but SP2 does. Avoid SP2 if you want a quick (as possible) boot time.
WIP - slipstreamed SP1 with nothing deleted works fine. Trying another progressively less aggressive nlited install now...
I haven't tried tinyxp. I briefly looked into it, and it appeared that it was possibly legally sketchy or found at sketchy places. Plus, I wanted a bit more control over the process, so I tried nlite first (and here I am). At this point, I want to know why/what the cause of this is. Can't... let... it... beat... me...
Rick
Rick
DrewKaree:
--- Quote from: rockin_rick on July 08, 2007, 01:06:42 pm ---
FWIW and hopefully others benefit, this has been with XP Pro and SP1 all along.
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Look around on their forums for the .msi installer issue. That's what's ringing in my mind. I can't recall if it was a service or checkbox in the slipstreaming process that was at issue, or if it was "fixed" by slipstreaming SP2.
If you need it, I've got SP2 somewhere (but I dunno if it's too dang big to e-mail ya).
--- Quote from: spystyle on July 08, 2007, 01:15:25 pm ---Is there any benefit to adding any updates or service packs to XP?
I would blindly assume that all those service packs and updates are to help their crappy web browser and other things we MAMErs don't use on our cabs.
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Security fixes. Not all their security flaws are related to the browser (just the vast majority). If someone isn't hooking their cab up to a network (or the 'net), then it isn't as big a deal, but they also include fixes for installation issues once in a while too. IIRC, if you find Ryan's update packs site, it lays out what each hotfix and service patch addresses.
*edit*
nLite also gives you the flexibility to slipstream ONLY the hotfixes and patches you wish, so you don't have to add in crap you don't want/need
rockin_rick:
I got it to work finally. I did notice the fix for the MSI installer registry permission thing. I was using nlite v1.3 beta and this msi issue was corrected in 1.3 RC2. This had me wondering so I downloaded the latest non-beta version (1.3.5) and used that. So perhaps this was the issue all along...
BUT I also went with a bit less aggressive deletion. Added in a few more of the red things that I wasn't 100% sure wouldn't be used. And a few other tweaks. So I can't narrow down the problem between nlite version and my component removals...
I am going to go back and try re-removing some of those things I added back and see what happens...
I have SP2, but I don't want to use it. I am not connecting to any network whatsoever, so security issues are not of a concern. Also, I've observed win installs before that after installing SP2, the boot time increases ~10sec. (before you brought nlite to my attention (thanks BTW) I would install gold, then one of the first things install the SP2.) Using SP2 seems counterproductive in this case as it adds a lot of unnecessary bloat and boot time. Thanks for the offer, though.
Rick
spystyle:
I've never heard anything good about SP2
It's probably got allot that causes XP to crash and bloat - that keeps everyone rich you know. It also rolls out the red carpet for Vista.
I use "2K SP4" on my PC and optimized 98se on my cabs (also DOS*)
But I could possibly be persuaded to use TinyXP...
Cheers,
Craig
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http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=58809.0
rockin_rick:
I went back and tried my older 'non-working' version with the newer version of nlite, and it was still a no-go. I think that perhaps my issue had something to do with user permissions. There was something about this on the web regarding the error code I got. Also, FWIW- I got this error just as 'scanning your hardware' dialog poped up. I can't say exactly what it was, as I made several changes...
I got it all installed, chipset drivers, sound card drivers, video drivers. Made a few tweaks, defrag and I'm done. It's weird, I feel like I should have so much more to do to get this done. I'm not even going to bother to image it - this way isn't much more work. (and I've never had to use an image yet) I'm used to installing windows and tweaking everything out, gpedit.msc, updating, ghost, etc. Most of my tweaks were made ahead of time... nLite from now on!
Now on to FE's and such....
Rick
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