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FrizzleFried:

Rant moved to main forum...



csa3d:


--- Quote from: Zakk on February 03, 2008, 04:40:49 pm ---Buddy, if you put a project up for opinions, you unfortunately can't dictate that you only want opinions that you agree with. Such is the nature of this hobby.

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Agreed.  I acknowledge the statements made by Fozzy and Frizzle, but we hashed these over months ago on page 1 or so.


--- Quote from: Zakk on February 03, 2008, 04:40:49 pm ---However, if you are putting reproduction galaxian artwork on the front and sides, then it's not too bad.  I mean, the original artwork was pretty rough.

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I have purchased all original full size vinyl printed reproduction artwork from Scott at MameMarquees.com, due to arrive next week.  The original marquee has been cleaned and polished, the retainers have been sanded to metal and repainted original black, I have re-painted the inside black areas because they were cracking and scratched.  The coindoor has been fully restored minus a metal screen printed plate (which I have been holding out on for restorations sake), and I even had ThisOldGame reprint a fresh Midway badge for the back. 


--- Quote from: Zakk on February 03, 2008, 04:40:49 pm --- I -might- suggest you put the original galaxian board back in it (I didn't read what you planned to do with the board)

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That board now lives happily with Peale.  No word on if it was fixable or not.

-csa

brandon:


--- Quote from: FrizzleFried on February 03, 2008, 04:42:35 pm ---
Also,  as Zakk pointed out.  This IS a forum.  Don't like what I have to say?  Tell your troubles to Jesus...he listens (perhaps?!)...I don't.


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yes it is a forum.. and people usually tend to stay on topic of the OP.  The morality of Maming a collectable is not the topic.  Also, calling somebody a --cream-filled twinkie-- or saying their project is asstastic isnt exactly appropriate either.  Like it or not the cabinet has been gutted, the artwork peeled of and its getting Mamed.  Perhaps you and Fozzy can take up donations to save #7533 and Csa3D will sell the cab to you guys.  Although there are lots of collectors that frequent this site its still called BYOAC and csa3D is building his own


--- Quote from: Fozzy The Bear on February 02, 2008, 10:21:33 am ---This is exactly the sort of thing that gives us a very bad name in the restoration community of genuine collectors.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)


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Since when did BYOAC become "the restoration community of genuine collectors" ???

Fozzy The Bear:


--- Quote from: brandon on February 04, 2008, 04:35:38 am ---
--- Quote from: Fozzy The Bear on February 02, 2008, 10:21:33 am ---This is exactly the sort of thing that gives us a very bad name in the restoration community of genuine collectors.


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Since when did BYOAC become "the restoration community of genuine collectors" ???

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I didn't say it was..... The restoration and collectors community exists outside of here as well as inside of here, and this appaling destruction is what gives BYOAC a bad name in it!

just because this is not a specific restoration community does not give people the right to destroy things. See the BYOAC mission statement written by Saint: "Please do be mindful that we don't destroy what we're trying to re-create.  Many classic arcade machines are rare and worth a heck of a lot more intact than altered." Destroying a more or less complete classic just so you can play games at home is NEVER OK.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

brandon:

look, I'm a preservationist to a degree myself.. and I'm playing devil's advocate to some degree here.. I've done several restorations myself and its a very rewarding thing to be preserving a piece of American culture for future generations.

My whole problem with the arguement are statements like this...


--- Quote from: Fozzy The Bear on February 04, 2008, 09:35:33 am ---just because this is not a specific restoration community does not give people the right to destroy things.


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whether or not you like it or agree with it, folks have the right to do whatever they want with their own property. 


--- Quote ---Many classic arcade machines are rare and worth a heck of a lot more intact than altered."
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There's another debatable statement.  I have an empty Robotron 2084 cabinet, several Stargate cabs and a few Pac/Ms Pacman cabinet.  Most of them are conversions that have been painted over with black paint.  The Robotron is the best of the bunch and although it was converted to ...MORTAL KOMBAT (not by me!) the side art is perfectly intact.  I know if I tried to Mame it folks would kill me but if I tried to sell it as an empty cab I might get $50... You cant even buy enough plywood to build your own cab with $50.  Not to mention the other materials, time, effort, labors etc and some people flat out just dont have the tools or the know-how to do woodworking.  So as far as the question of worth... well, for $50 it wouldnt be worth it to me to start from scratch...  but sure, restoring it gives you all sort of warm fuzzies that money cant buy.

If you want to say to the guy "Man, that thing probably just needed a cap kit!  You probably could've fixed the monitor and turned around and sold that thing for 600-800 bucks!"   Fine, have at it.  but to question the man's ethics and act as some sort of moral authority of classic gaming... well, that I don't think is right


at least he didnt turn it into a couch... :D




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