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AMI Disco 200 Jukebox Project
Kevin Mullins:
Started talking about this on the software list sticky in the Audio/Jukebox/MP3 Forum and wanted to move it before I strung it out and abused that particular thread.
Any interest and ideas from everyone on this project I'll be getting myself into shortly will be much appreciated.
(I don't physically have the juke yet, but it won't be long before I do)
So I want to get familiar with and play with the software a bit, because it will be the hardest part. The mechanics of making it work will be easy in comparison.
So to catch everyone reading up to speed, here it is so far.
--- Quote from: Kevin Mullins on October 01, 2006, 05:10:38 pm ---OK.... hoping not to sound like an arse here, new to the jukebox software scene. I've gone through this thread a bit and noticed alot of great looking software. Most of which seem to be touchscreen operated and suited best for that purpose. The compiled lists are great, but don't really designate which operation method they are best used for. (keypad or touchscreen)
I have an actual original jukebox with no guts to it and was planning on installing a PC, jukebox software, etc, etc. (fixing it original would be outrageously expensive)
I plan to use the original keypad that is already on the machine just as if it were all back to original aside from a monitor to view.
My question is:
Can anyone recommend a strictly key mappable type jukebox software?
( Not interested in touchscreen options at all )
--- Quote from: Chris on October 01, 2006, 05:15:14 pm ---DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox is completely key-mappable and can adapt to several different control schemes. What model jukebox are you adapting?
--Chris
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--- Quote from: Kevin Mullins on October 01, 2006, 06:34:26 pm ---It's an AMI Disco 200.
A friend of mine got a trade deal on three jukes, two just need minor repairs he plans to sell, this one is totally empty of it's inner workings so I'll get that one and help him fix the others. And I had already had my eye on it anyways for this sort of project. So it should work out good. (now that I get a chance to play with it) I haven't actually picked it up yet, so I'm not sure how many keys, etc it has just yet. And I'm not sure how I will do the monitor on it quite yet as I've only seen pictures of it so far. As much of it as possible will remain original.
Thanks for the heads-up on the software. I'll go check those out and play around with them.
I'll try not to disturb this particular thread with my project..... might start a new one somewhere, just needed suggestions on software and the lists in this thread were great but I needed that tid bit of clarification to try a couple out.
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--- Quote from: Chris on October 01, 2006, 09:11:24 pm ---
--- Quote from: Kevin Mullins on October 01, 2006, 06:34:26 pm --- And I'm not sure how I will do the monitor on it quite yet as I've only seen pictures of it so far. As much of it as possible will remain original.
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Do you even want to put a monitor on it? You can just use the original titlestrips... I'll be happy to help you configure the software, you'll need a custom skin to match the control panel layout. But you're right that we shouldn't take up this thread; you may want to re-post it in the DOSCab/WinCab forum if you want to give it a try. (Using a DOS-based PC instead of Windows would mean you wouldn't have to wait long for your juke to boot...)
--Chris
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Hey Chris.... now that sounds like an idea if what I'm thinking is what you mean.
Basically use the original title strips as the list of music to choose from and then map the keys to function similar as they normally would for selection, etc.
And I have plenty of parts around to build a DOS based PC if you still recommend that as well. (have to brush up again on DOS) ;)
Will DOSCab allow selections such as --BINGO! Either that, or I was attempting to say "before" but it was too many letters to type--, G6, A3, etc and then just "add" them to the playlist that already playing like a regular old jukebox would?
EDIT: Just checked out the web site for DOSCab/WinCab and think it already answered my last question.
EDIT 2: Yup.....Just finished playing with the software a bit and it looks like it will do exactly what I need. Very easy to edit the .ini files as well.
Next question: If I need to make a custom skin to match the original juke selection table will I need any other specific editing software to modify one?
Chris:
The Disco was also sold as the Fiesta and the Claremount; the actual model number is R-83. The R-83 is pretty basic control-wise; just a 10-key pad with a reset (I think) button. The tricky part is the skin; although it's a singles-style box, I believe it needs three digit input (200 selections, with selection numbers starting at 100), which means you need to use a CD-skin to simulate it until I can get three-digit selections working for singles. Essentially, you will have a two-album CD skin with each album having 100 tracks. The track lists will run off the screen but it's irrelevant as they'll never be seen without a monitor. You'll also need to enable the UseTrackZero option, which was added specifically to support this type of selection system.
Anyone have any ideas on some way to drive the LED display on that? :) That would be worth the programming effort for the coolness factor alone...
Kevin Mullins:
Still don't have the juke cab yet..... been busy.
But in the mean time I was messing around with the software. (which is key to the success of this project)
Slowly but surely I'll get the hang of this stuff.
But I was playing with the song tags and such to get them to show up correctly in the DosCab/WinCab software, I have it set to list them by Artist, but every one that I edit the tag the artist always shows up as "Various Artist" after it does it's little update.
The tag editing software seems to be working fine and doing what it says it does when I open a song with Media Player, it'll show exactly as I've changed it to etc.
This is the editing software I was trying: http://www.mp3tag.de/en/
Any ideas?
It would defineately be cool to get the LED digit display to work in conjunction with the selections made. I'll have to wait and see the hardware that's left in it and maybe be able to go from there and figure something out. Maybe it'll have something still usable for that part. (?)
I'll start messing with the skin for it once I get the basics understood well enough on editing the .ini's and all it's options, etc. Should be easy enough from the looks of it so far.
Chris:
--- Quote from: Kevin Mullins on October 04, 2006, 10:10:15 pm ---But I was playing with the song tags and such to get them to show up correctly in the DosCab/WinCab software, I have it set to list them by Artist, but every one that I edit the tag the artist always shows up as "Various Artist" after it does it's little update.
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Sounds like the tag editor is going out of its way to preserve the file date. If the file date hasn't changed the juke doesn't re-read the tags. Check to see if preserving the date is an option in the software that you can turn off.
--Chris
Kevin Mullins:
The file date info and such was being updated by the editor and DOSCab "seemed" to be updating it, but when it did I got a whole bunch of 'Various Artists".
Found an option on the editor setup to NOT allow it to change the date info, still no go.
BUT..... I went in and deleted the index files and such out of the DATA folder and when I restarted DOSCab it of course updated every song again...... and they were all correct, all the artists names were right, etc. ;D (go figure)
Oh, and I did find a decent pic of the Fiesta (ugh) version of this juke unit and it does appear to have a 10 numerical keypad with an Enter/Select button. (like you had mentioned)
http://www.pinballrebel.com/archive/ami/r83/r83.htm
I still don't have my hands on the actual juke yet, so I've been gathering info here and there. Defineately would be cool to get the LED selection display to work in conjuction with the software. I'll have to wait and see what all is left in there when I get it, maybe there will be something workable once I see what it actually has and how it worked originally. (see how software might drive it)
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