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Dartful Dodger:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on October 03, 2006, 06:35:00 pm ---
Yep.  I would rather my kid fear a slap for touching the stove than learn the hard way that a pot of boiling water can kill you.

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You might be teaching your kid to not get caught touching the stove.

Next time your kid might wait until no one is watching when he touches it and the seconds it'll take for the nearest adult to locate where the screaming is coming from could be the seconds that would have been the difference between life or death and 1st or 3rd degree burns.
AtomSmasher:

--- Quote from: Dartful Dodger on October 03, 2006, 07:43:14 pm ---You might be teaching your kid to not get caught touching the stove.

Next time your kid might wait until no one is watching when he touches it and the seconds it'll take for the nearest adult to locate where the screaming is coming from could be the seconds that would have been the difference between life or death and 1st or 3rd degree burns.


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you can say the same exact thing about every other punishment.  How exactly was giving a time out or taking a toy away give the child extra insight on why they were punished?  I can understand why people don't want to spank their child, but this reason makes no sense. 

Since I do not have any kids, and probably won't have any for a while, I feel I shouldn't be debating how to raise a child, which is why I'm staying on the sidelines for the most part.  I will, however, point out severly flawed arguements.
kkingsto:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on October 03, 2006, 03:53:30 pm ---
Well, it stands to reason... most of the time, dumb parents raise dumb kids.  It's not all genetics.

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Then there's the parents who do not take responsibility for their kid's actions!

I was at my neice's birthday party and when the cake came out, all of the kids EXCEPT one were hogging around my sister, trying to get tastes of the frosting, etc.   My brother made a comment:  "Looks like Jessica's the only one behaving here!".    She was actually sitting on my brother's lap at the time, just watching what was going on.   Made ME feel proud as she's MY daughter!
Dartful Dodger:

--- Quote from: AtomSmasher on October 03, 2006, 08:44:48 pm ---How exactly was giving a time out or taking a toy away give the child extra insight on why they were punished?  I can understand why people don't want to spank their child, but this reason makes no sense. 

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Punishments need to be consistent.  The child isn't touching the stove to be disrespectful, he's just being curious.  The kid isn't going to understand why touching the stove gets a slap when not sharing with his siblings gets him sent to his room.  When the intent for the crime of the lesser punishment was more malice.

I don't know if Chad hits his kids every time they step out of line.  I'm assuming he doesn't.  In this instance he's made a point to say hitting a child is better than letting the child do something that'll kill him.  I wanted to point out that the child doesn't see the differences.


--- Quote from: Dartful Dodger on October 02, 2006, 07:12:36 pm ---All kids are different and I'm going to assume parents are the best judge at what their kids need.

With all these school shootings I think if parents are doing something to control their kids we should leave them alone. 

DCF should be going after parents who don't control their kids at all.

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As you can see by my earlier post I was also trying to stay on the sidelines for the most part.  Not because I don't have kids but because parents are the best at knowing how to raise their own children.

I thought I was just pointing out severely flawed arguments, but seeing how nonsensical your post reads, has shown me that I should just leave this topic to those that care.

Thank you.
shmokes:
WTF?   Who are you and what have you done with Dartful Dodger?
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